Skipping first leg - Delta / Air France - repercussions?
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I have a similar situation on my SFO-LAX-PPT flight in July. I paid with $ at a great fare, but I have a seven hour connection at LAX. I called Delta and was told that changing to a later first flight would add about $700 to the price, despite the fact that I could buy a one-way SFO-LAX on DL at the desired time for about $130. It's really hard to find the logic in this stuff, but I'm sure someone in Delta Revenue Management has a spreadsheet which says this makes sense.
In your case, the change you sought meant that there was a fee and likely that the fare for the ticket you now wanted cost more. If, by way of example, the change fee was $300 and a new ticket for the new route cost $400 more than what you had paid, you would need to pay $700.
Same issue for OP, if he wants to drop his SFO-LAX, he will pay the price for the new ticket LAX-PPT + fee + fare difference as of today.
If this was not the case, nobody in their right mind would pay for a flexible ticket.
The tradeoff for OP is that he got a dirt cheap price in return for an inconvenient itinerary.
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I've had nested PNRs on Delta and it was not a problem, but they were not on the same day.
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It shouldn't be a problem if the flights are all on Delta. I presume there's no fare rule on the original ticket requiring a minimum layover time, so taking another round-trip during the layover wouldn't be attempting to evade a minimum stay requirement. Similarly, since none of the flights would overlap and OP would intend to fly them all, they're not impossible. Delta's computer systems seem to be the most forgiving of the big three in terms of overlapping flights to begin with, but even AA (who are very aggressive about detecting and cancelling overlapping flights) would allow this.
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Personally I'd probably just use it as an opportunity to plane watch/photograph at In-N-Out all day, but that's just me.
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I have a similar situation on my SFO-LAX-PPT flight in July. I paid with $ at a great fare, but I have a seven hour connection at LAX. I called Delta and was told that changing to a later first flight would add about $700 to the price, despite the fact that I could buy a one-way SFO-LAX on DL at the desired time for about $130. It's really hard to find the logic in this stuff, but I'm sure someone in Delta Revenue Management has a spreadsheet which says this makes sense.
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But this is within the outbound entirely. I think that's a potentially dangerous scenario that I wouldn't try.
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I was trying to say that OP can give Delta a call now to drop the first leg, it is possible... I'm not asking OP to wait until missing first leg and then call Delta, that would be awful.
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I do nested tickets all the time. Some years it represents 40%-80% of my travel. AF, KLM, LH, DL. Never had any issue.
To be on the safe side I would actually make sure I flew Delta for the nested part. There is always the risk but when on the same airline and 2 different PNR's they are much more likely to help you out. Fly AA or WN and Delta will point to the exit for sure.
To be on the safe side I would actually make sure I flew Delta for the nested part. There is always the risk but when on the same airline and 2 different PNR's they are much more likely to help you out. Fly AA or WN and Delta will point to the exit for sure.
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However in practice you are very unlikely to be dragged into anything over this if you are an infrequent flyer of Delta/AF.
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