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Old Feb 13, 2019, 5:13 pm
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Severe Turbulence on DL Flight

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Old Feb 13, 2019, 5:29 pm
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It was DL 5763 from SNA>SEA and operated by N613CZ:

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N613CZ
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Old Feb 14, 2019, 6:38 am
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https://www.foxnews.com/travel/delta...injured-report

Just going to say I think the drink carts are more of a "projectile threat" then a laptop, tablet, or phone but thats just me.....

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Old Feb 14, 2019, 7:10 am
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Originally Posted by vincentharris
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/delta...injured-report

Just going to say I think the drink carts are more of a "projectile threat" then a laptop, tablet, or phone but thats just me.....
Which is why they are stowed, and much more securely (with FAA-approved securing mechanisms) than the other items, for takeoff and landing.

Is someone arguing to the contrary, that drink carts are less of a threat than the other items? Or are you saying drink carts should never be in the aisles during a flight? (Apologies if I am missing your point.)
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It’s still pretty damn bumpy on climbout from LAX-MSP this morning.
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Old Feb 14, 2019, 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by vincentharris
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/delta...injured-report

Just going to say I think the drink carts are more of a "projectile threat" then a laptop, tablet, or phone but thats just me.....

ok.....?

what's your point?
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Kind of amazing they were doing drink service at the time. Per the article, heavy turbulence was forecast?
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Old Feb 14, 2019, 8:23 am
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OT but the Reno newspaper article linked in the OP has a picture (file photo from FLL airport) of a mainline narrowbody DL aircraft with "The Spirit of FREEDOM" pointed on its tight front "fender." Does anyone know the story behind this? I know about the "Spirit of DELTA" 767 and am wondering....
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Old Feb 14, 2019, 8:30 am
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Originally Posted by nightkhan
ok.....?

what's your point?
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Which is why they are stowed, and much more securely (with FAA-approved securing mechanisms) than the other items, for takeoff and landing.

Is someone arguing to the contrary, that drink carts are less of a threat than the other items? Or are you saying drink carts should never be in the aisles during a flight? (Apologies if I am missing your point.)
It was a joke everyone that is all.
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Old Feb 14, 2019, 8:33 am
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Yesterday, SLC-SMF was definitely one of the bumpiest rides I've had in a long time as we passed over the Sierra Nevada mountains. The National Weather Service out of Reno has been warning of severe turbulence for several days now in their forecast discussions. Wednesday mornings forecast included:

The wind in western Nevada could cause extensive delays to air
traffic and periods of downright dangerous flying conditions with
extreme turbulence, very strong low level wind shear, and
unpredictable near-surface rotors. A High Wind Warning is in
affect Wednesday and Thursday. Ridge top winds in excess of 130+
knots are likely with the jet stream over the Sierra strengthening
to 180+ knots as the polar and subtropical jets collide over the
region. This is a particularly dangerous situation for aviation in
the lee of the Sierra over the next few days.

This whole month the region has been getting pounded by huge storms, but this current storm is making for particularly rough air. The route for SNA-SEA basically follows the crest of the Sierra through CA so it was hard to avoid. Fingers crossed my flight out of Reno this evening can find a hole and punch it through.
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Global Warming, causing sever updrafts..
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Old Feb 14, 2019, 9:26 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
OT but the Reno newspaper article linked in the OP has a picture (file photo from FLL airport) of a mainline narrowbody DL aircraft with "The Spirit of FREEDOM" pointed on its tight front "fender." Does anyone know the story behind this? I know about the "Spirit of DELTA" 767 and am wondering....
EDIT: see this Flight Museum page for the story behind all of the special liveries.

http://www.deltamuseum.org/exhibits/...special-livery
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Old Feb 14, 2019, 9:37 am
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I came across this a coupl'a days ago, and I was gonna post it, but I thought some might think it's insensitive . . . . but . . . . then I thought . . . . naaaah, we can handle it!



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Old Feb 14, 2019, 9:55 am
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Originally Posted by satman40
Global Warming, causing sever updrafts..
Okay, there is evidence that climate change is likely to cause increased turbulence. But there are many factors that cause turbulence for aircraft other than updrafts.

Without going into atmospheric dynamics, flying through a 170mph jet stream (as suggested by forecast soundings at the time and location of the incident) will often be turbulent because it is very hard for the atmosphere to flow smoothly at those speeds. The aircraft was also flying near the tropopause, which can cause increased shear instability.

Bottom line, don't blame this on "global warming" -- it's impossible to attribute a single event to "global warming."
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Old Feb 14, 2019, 9:56 am
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Originally Posted by Bear96
Which is why they are stowed, and much more securely (with FAA-approved securing mechanisms) than the other items, for takeoff and landing.

Is someone arguing to the contrary, that drink carts are less of a threat than the other items? Or are you saying drink carts should never be in the aisles during a flight? (Apologies if I am missing your point.)
I have been a few flights in 1A on a regional jet where I have a prime view of the galley during takeoff where a drink cart has gone for a ride. A couple instances the latch was broken and flipped up on its own and a couple others the FA forget to secure the drink cart. And wow the FAs pop out of their jumpseat quick to rescue the cart when it happens.
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