Severe Turbulence on DL Flight
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Just going to say I think the drink carts are more of a "projectile threat" then a laptop, tablet, or phone but thats just me.....
Just going to say I think the drink carts are more of a "projectile threat" then a laptop, tablet, or phone but thats just me.....
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Just going to say I think the drink carts are more of a "projectile threat" then a laptop, tablet, or phone but thats just me.....
Just going to say I think the drink carts are more of a "projectile threat" then a laptop, tablet, or phone but thats just me.....
Is someone arguing to the contrary, that drink carts are less of a threat than the other items? Or are you saying drink carts should never be in the aisles during a flight? (Apologies if I am missing your point.)
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Just going to say I think the drink carts are more of a "projectile threat" then a laptop, tablet, or phone but thats just me.....
Just going to say I think the drink carts are more of a "projectile threat" then a laptop, tablet, or phone but thats just me.....
what's your point?
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OT but the Reno newspaper article linked in the OP has a picture (file photo from FLL airport) of a mainline narrowbody DL aircraft with "The Spirit of FREEDOM" pointed on its tight front "fender." Does anyone know the story behind this? I know about the "Spirit of DELTA" 767 and am wondering....
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Which is why they are stowed, and much more securely (with FAA-approved securing mechanisms) than the other items, for takeoff and landing.
Is someone arguing to the contrary, that drink carts are less of a threat than the other items? Or are you saying drink carts should never be in the aisles during a flight? (Apologies if I am missing your point.)
Is someone arguing to the contrary, that drink carts are less of a threat than the other items? Or are you saying drink carts should never be in the aisles during a flight? (Apologies if I am missing your point.)
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Yesterday, SLC-SMF was definitely one of the bumpiest rides I've had in a long time as we passed over the Sierra Nevada mountains. The National Weather Service out of Reno has been warning of severe turbulence for several days now in their forecast discussions. Wednesday mornings forecast included:
The wind in western Nevada could cause extensive delays to air
traffic and periods of downright dangerous flying conditions with
extreme turbulence, very strong low level wind shear, and
unpredictable near-surface rotors. A High Wind Warning is in
affect Wednesday and Thursday. Ridge top winds in excess of 130+
knots are likely with the jet stream over the Sierra strengthening
to 180+ knots as the polar and subtropical jets collide over the
region. This is a particularly dangerous situation for aviation in
the lee of the Sierra over the next few days.
This whole month the region has been getting pounded by huge storms, but this current storm is making for particularly rough air. The route for SNA-SEA basically follows the crest of the Sierra through CA so it was hard to avoid. Fingers crossed my flight out of Reno this evening can find a hole and punch it through.
The wind in western Nevada could cause extensive delays to air
traffic and periods of downright dangerous flying conditions with
extreme turbulence, very strong low level wind shear, and
unpredictable near-surface rotors. A High Wind Warning is in
affect Wednesday and Thursday. Ridge top winds in excess of 130+
knots are likely with the jet stream over the Sierra strengthening
to 180+ knots as the polar and subtropical jets collide over the
region. This is a particularly dangerous situation for aviation in
the lee of the Sierra over the next few days.
This whole month the region has been getting pounded by huge storms, but this current storm is making for particularly rough air. The route for SNA-SEA basically follows the crest of the Sierra through CA so it was hard to avoid. Fingers crossed my flight out of Reno this evening can find a hole and punch it through.
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OT but the Reno newspaper article linked in the OP has a picture (file photo from FLL airport) of a mainline narrowbody DL aircraft with "The Spirit of FREEDOM" pointed on its tight front "fender." Does anyone know the story behind this? I know about the "Spirit of DELTA" 767 and am wondering....
http://www.deltamuseum.org/exhibits/...special-livery
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I came across this a coupl'a days ago, and I was gonna post it, but I thought some might think it's insensitive . . . . but . . . . then I thought . . . . naaaah, we can handle it!
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Okay, there is evidence that climate change is likely to cause increased turbulence. But there are many factors that cause turbulence for aircraft other than updrafts.
Without going into atmospheric dynamics, flying through a 170mph jet stream (as suggested by forecast soundings at the time and location of the incident) will often be turbulent because it is very hard for the atmosphere to flow smoothly at those speeds. The aircraft was also flying near the tropopause, which can cause increased shear instability.
Bottom line, don't blame this on "global warming" -- it's impossible to attribute a single event to "global warming."
Without going into atmospheric dynamics, flying through a 170mph jet stream (as suggested by forecast soundings at the time and location of the incident) will often be turbulent because it is very hard for the atmosphere to flow smoothly at those speeds. The aircraft was also flying near the tropopause, which can cause increased shear instability.
Bottom line, don't blame this on "global warming" -- it's impossible to attribute a single event to "global warming."
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Which is why they are stowed, and much more securely (with FAA-approved securing mechanisms) than the other items, for takeoff and landing.
Is someone arguing to the contrary, that drink carts are less of a threat than the other items? Or are you saying drink carts should never be in the aisles during a flight? (Apologies if I am missing your point.)
Is someone arguing to the contrary, that drink carts are less of a threat than the other items? Or are you saying drink carts should never be in the aisles during a flight? (Apologies if I am missing your point.)