changing planes in Atlants on Delta Airlines
I'm flying from Detroit to Fort Lauderdale with a 37 minute layover in Atlanta. This is my first layover. How easy is it to change planes?
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Originally Posted by adixon
(Post 30773753)
I'm flying from Detroit to Fort Lauderdale with a 37 minute layover in Atlanta. This is my first layover. How easy is it to change planes?
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Use the restroom on the plane before landing. You will have no problems. |
Originally Posted by RRDD
(Post 30773848)
Use the restroom on the plane before landing. You will have no problems. |
Originally Posted by Cledaybuck
(Post 30774040)
You can't possibly know that. Even the slightest delay is going to cause problems.
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Originally Posted by adixon
(Post 30773753)
I'm flying from Detroit to Fort Lauderdale with a 37 minute layover in Atlanta. This is my first layover. How easy is it to change planes?
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Originally Posted by adixon
(Post 30773753)
I'm flying from Detroit to Fort Lauderdale with a 37 minute layover in Atlanta. This is my first layover. How easy is it to change planes?
Now, depending on how far out your trip is, Delta frequently makes minor (to major) schedule adjustments, with most schedule changes finalizing about 30-60 days out. If the schedule changes to shorten the connection by even 3 minutes, you'll be violating minimum connection time and thus will be eligible for a schedule change that will allow you to either 1) get a new itinerary with a longer layover or if you're lucky 2) get DL to rebook you on a DTW-FLL nonstop. Additional note to ease some of the burden: DL usually pads its schedules a bit. There is a good chance that if you depart DTW on-time, you may arrive in ATL a little early, providing a little more cushion. There is no guarantee of this happening day of, however. |
Originally Posted by Cledaybuck
(Post 30774040)
You can't possibly know that. Even the slightest delay is going to cause problems.
Quite right. Even if the plane is on time, it is possible that the OP will miss the flight. For example, if you are in the last row of a full 739, it will take roughly 15-20 minutes from the parking gate being set to when you step off the plane based on my experience. So, even best case, you're down to T-22 before you even step off the plane. If you get in at T1 and need to go to some far off gate in E, you won't make it before T-10 when they might close the boarding doors. I realize most FT'ers have the benefit of sitting closer to the front and may not realize this, but as a lowly DM I am relegated to seat 36C so I am well aware of the time it takes to get off the plane. Sitting in the back turns a comfortable (but tight) connection into a "scramble and hope" (the hope being an early arrival and/or not having gates across the airport). |
Originally Posted by ethernal
(Post 30774118)
Quite right. Even if the plane is on time, it is possible that the OP will miss the flight. For example, if you are in the last row of a full 739, it will take roughly 15-20 minutes from the parking gate being set to when you step off the plane based on my experience. So, even best case, you're down to T-22 before you even step off the plane. If you get in at T1 and need to go to some far off gate in E, you won't make it before T-10 when they might close the boarding doors. I realize most FT'ers have the benefit of sitting closer to the front and may not realize this, but as a lowly DM I am relegated to seat 36C so I am well aware of the time it takes to get off the plane. Sitting in the back turns a comfortable (but tight) connection into a "scramble and hope" (the hope being an early arrival and/or not having gates across the airport). |
Originally Posted by Cledaybuck
(Post 30774148)
Don't forget that a plane that is up to 14 minutes late is still considered on time for the DOT statistics, so even a good on time rate may not be as good as it looks in this situation.
Delta seems to target an average delay of about 0 minutes if you look at their on-time stats (some months they are on average 1 minute early, some they are on average 1 minute late, but it's roughly 0 minutes). Since delays have a long tail (i.e., many planes are delayed by many hours) whereas arrivals have a firm lower bound (obviously no flight can be less than 0 minutes, but even beyond that, a plane still has to fly from point A to point B with some variation due to winds). This means that, statistically, the median Delta flight arrives early - and probably something like 60-75% of them do if I had to guess. Then there are 10% that arrive "on time" per the DoT (0-14 min delay) but are delayed, and then the remaining 10-15% that are actually delayed per DoT stats. |
Originally Posted by ATOBTTR
(Post 30774102)
37 minutes is only 2 minutes above the Minimum Connection Time of 35 minutes. This will be very tight if you arrive on time and your connection is departing on time. That said, both DTW-ATL and ATL-FLL run pretty frequently so unless you're on one of the last flights of the night, you'll have back-up options to get to FLL, as well as plenty of flights to PBI or MIA that you could be rebooked on.
Now, depending on how far out your trip is, Delta frequently makes minor (to major) schedule adjustments, with most schedule changes finalizing about 30-60 days out. If the schedule changes to shorten the connection by even 3 minutes, you'll be violating minimum connection time and thus will be eligible for a schedule change that will allow you to either 1) get a new itinerary with a longer layover or if you're lucky 2) get DL to rebook you on a DTW-FLL nonstop. Additional note to ease some of the burden: DL usually pads its schedules a bit. There is a good chance that if you depart DTW on-time, you may arrive in ATL a little early, providing a little more cushion. There is no guarantee of this happening day of, however. |
Originally Posted by Cledaybuck
(Post 30774040)
You can't possibly know that. Even the slightest delay is going to cause problems.
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Originally Posted by RRDD
(Post 30774195)
I’ve booked 100+ sub-50 minute connections through ATL, DTW or MSP. Only once did I miss a connection that had an on-time arrival. So... I do know that 99+% of the time you will have no problems....if your arrival is on-time. As for a late arrival, hope for the best. An on-time flight does not guarantee a successful connection at Atlanta with a 37 minute connection window. That's all I'm saying. I would agree that 50 minutes would have a 100% successful connect rate at Atlanta if the inbound is on time (and no shenanigans like a jetway not working) for an individual that has no mobility issues. That 13 minute covers contingencies on gate location, inbound flight seat, and boarding door close time. |
Originally Posted by ethernal
(Post 30774165)
This is true, but I am talking about a true on-time arrival.
Delta seems to target an average delay of about 0 minutes if you look at their on-time stats (some months they are on average 1 minute early, some they are on average 1 minute late, but it's roughly 0 minutes). Since delays have a long tail (i.e., many planes are delayed by many hours) whereas arrivals have a firm lower bound (obviously no flight can be less than 0 minutes, but even beyond that, a plane still has to fly from point A to point B with some variation due to winds). This means that, statistically, the median Delta flight arrives early - and probably something like 60-75% of them do if I had to guess. Then there are 10% that arrive "on time" per the DoT (0-14 min delay) but are delayed, and then the remaining 10-15% that are actually delayed per DoT stats. |
I would be very nervous about a 37-minute connection in ATL, especially if seated towards the back of the plane.
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