DL SEA <-> KIX Cancelled after Nov
Feb 3, 2019, 4:11 pm
#2
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Yeah flight is only bookable until Oct 25. Wouldn't surprise me if DL only flew the route seasonally, or it's possible the route isn't meeting DL's expectations already based on advance bookings.
Feb 3, 2019, 4:55 pm
#3
Join Date: Sep 2018
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Welp, that didn't take long. Have they even started flying this route yet? Thought it started in April. Was hoping to fly this at some point this year, but it looks like it wont be around long enough.
Looks like KE will continue to be the only viable option for Skyteam members looking to cross the Pacific. Bleck.
Looks like KE will continue to be the only viable option for Skyteam members looking to cross the Pacific. Bleck.
Feb 3, 2019, 5:32 pm
#6
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Feb 3, 2019, 6:31 pm
#7
Join Date: May 2009
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Welp, that didn't take long. Have they even started flying this route yet? Thought it started in April. Was hoping to fly this at some point this year, but it looks like it wont be around long enough.
Looks like KE will continue to be the only viable option for Skyteam members looking to cross the Pacific. Bleck.
Looks like KE will continue to be the only viable option for Skyteam members looking to cross the Pacific. Bleck.
Feb 3, 2019, 8:28 pm
#8
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I thought something similar last fall when I realized they had discontinued service to HKG, which I visit every year, but then I flew KE via ICN, and it was a good experience and earned full MQM/MQD/RDM, so I shrugged it off. Note: I booked directly with KE, and was able to select seats at booking (via chat on KE's website).
Feb 3, 2019, 9:09 pm
#9
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Welp, that didn't take long. Have they even started flying this route yet? Thought it started in April. Was hoping to fly this at some point this year, but it looks like it wont be around long enough.
Looks like KE will continue to be the only viable option for Skyteam members looking to cross the Pacific. Bleck.
Looks like KE will continue to be the only viable option for Skyteam members looking to cross the Pacific. Bleck.
I think MU and CI are also quite viable, in fact I prefer MU over KE.
Feb 3, 2019, 9:33 pm
#10
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Has there always been a KIX-HNL flight? I was just looking at LAX-KIX flights and got that HNL connection on Oct 27 on the return.
Feb 3, 2019, 9:50 pm
#11
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Yeah. It's an existing DL station - probably a reason DL started SEA-KIX - whereas they just closed their ops @ TPE a couple years ago. I think NW flew HNL-KIX? NW's footprint in Japan was so significant at one point it seemed like it was a Japanese airline.
Feb 3, 2019, 11:08 pm
#13
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Seems overall pennywise, pound foolish for Delta to still have given up so much in the long run, with most of the population in the world in Asia. Yes more point-to-point travel is going to happen but lots of us are having issues with getting to where we need for major cities. KE isn't super desirable for me (no PE option), CI's earnings aren't good (though I like the airline)....and I'm not getting on a mainland Chinese airline (my mom would disown me & the friends trip reports and solidly not good).
Feb 4, 2019, 1:26 am
#14
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About Delta TPAC
We are currently in the the last month of a 3 month stay in Kuala Lumpur and Bangkok. We flew TPA-ATL-ICN-SIN on Delta and KE metal. We are not happy with the 9 hours of layover in ICN.
In May we go back but are routing differently. TPA-DTW-NRT-SIN on all Delta metal. We hope that Delta keeps this route. Otherwise we will choose another airline like Singapore or United because both have nonstop flights to SIN from the USA.
In May we go back but are routing differently. TPA-DTW-NRT-SIN on all Delta metal. We hope that Delta keeps this route. Otherwise we will choose another airline like Singapore or United because both have nonstop flights to SIN from the USA.
Feb 4, 2019, 5:33 am
#15
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DL marketing and sales is really poor and DL is down to less than 30% of its earlier capacity, thus having approximately four-fold having shrunk its Japan market share over the last few years.
Just recently (January) HNL-FUK was canceled as of after the end of golden week in May - with less than five months notice. Now SEA-KIX. DL seems to have effectively no marketing know-how or ability the last few years, given how rapidly it's shrinking and giving away market share to others in the TPAC market.
(I am not talking here LCCs like Air Asia X or Scoot who fly from from KIX to US (HNL), but airlines that are a few tiers above DL adding capacity, like NH 4x A380s dedicated to TYO-HNL, while DL has shrunk it more than six fold seat number wise to 1x daily tiny 767 vs 4x daily 747s/A330s of just a few years ago, for example. Whenever DL cuts capacity, others add. There is strong demand for premium travel (e.g. NH is adding F in addition to J in its A380s), yet DL's premium cabins in its 767s are tiny and sub-par to every other airline flying the same routes. Massive retreat is the best way to describe the state of DL [total lack of] marketing and sales.)