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DL47 AMS>JFK Cancelled Due To Co-Pilot Under The Influence

DL47 AMS>JFK Cancelled Due To Co-Pilot Under The Influence

Old Jan 29, 19, 7:12 am
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DL47 AMS>JFK Cancelled Due To Co-Pilot Under The Influence

This happened on Sunday...not good for this pilot:

https://nltimes.nl/2019/01/28/flight...v0WpxRUuM8ib_E
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Old Jan 29, 19, 7:21 am
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Wow . . . wonder how this was explained to the passengers at the departure gate.
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Old Jan 29, 19, 7:47 am
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Originally Posted by andrewk829 View Post
Wow . . . wonder how this was explained to the passengers at the departure gate.
Fluid levels were off on some of the instruments
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Old Jan 29, 19, 8:15 am
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Originally Posted by audidudi View Post
This happened on Sunday...not good for this pilot:

https://nltimes.nl/2019/01/28/flight...v0WpxRUuM8ib_E
That's the same day as the late KLM flight AMS-ATL was cancelled, so they must have been scrambling for TATL seats from AMS.
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Old Jan 29, 19, 8:26 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist View Post
That's the same day as the late KLM flight AMS-ATL was cancelled, so they must have been scrambling for TATL seats from AMS.
Also, multiple AMS-DTW flights were cancelled Jan 23, 24th due to weather in DTW (airport closed due to incing on runways). So a lot of the "slack" in the system was already taken out heading into the weekend.
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Old Jan 29, 19, 2:23 pm
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Wow! He was so extremely drunks! He cannot drinking a alcohol. That's not acceptable for the behaviors. I'm guess his career will be over. He will expected to lose his job and he will lose his pilot license.
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Old Jan 29, 19, 2:27 pm
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The article said the pilot was at 3 times the legal limit. Is there a legal limit for pilots that is above 0? I hope not.
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Old Jan 29, 19, 2:33 pm
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Originally Posted by jdrtravel View Post
The article said the pilot was at 3 times the legal limit. Is there a legal limit for pilots that is above 0? I hope not.
Interesting website that might answer some questions.....

Alcohol, The Pilot, and The FAA
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Old Jan 29, 19, 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by jdrtravel View Post
The article said the pilot was at 3 times the legal limit. Is there a legal limit for pilots that is above 0? I hope not.
Company policy may be different, but FAA regulations are a minimum 8 hours of "bottle to throttle", and a BAC of .04 or lower.
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Old Jan 29, 19, 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by jdrtravel View Post
The article said the pilot was at 3 times the legal limit. Is there a legal limit for pilots that is above 0? I hope not.
If the limit really is 0.00000 (to however many significant digits), using most mouthwash or certain pharmaceuticals would be a big problem.
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Old Jan 29, 19, 3:44 pm
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Originally Posted by MikeNYC1 View Post
Company policy may be different, but FAA regulations are a minimum 8 hours of "bottle to throttle", and a BAC of .04 or lower.
I believe The Netherlands is .02 - anyway you slice it....it ain't good.
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Old Jan 29, 19, 3:48 pm
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From my old Navy days - no drinking within 50 ft of aircraft, no smoking within 8 hours of flight - maybe I have that backward, but worked well either way.
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Old Jan 29, 19, 4:46 pm
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Originally Posted by mbowden19 View Post
I believe The Netherlands is .02 - anyway you slice it....it ain't good.
Yes, EU is .02 - so the co-pilot had BAC of .06. This isn't exactly riproaringly drunk (2-3 beers depending on ABV and weight if consumed right before the test), but .05 is when negative impacts to reaction time, decision making, concentration, and so on become pronounced (which is why, I assume, the FAA limit is .04).

Not a good look for either the co-pilot or Delta.
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Old Jan 29, 19, 5:07 pm
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Shouldn't them have waited for him to sober up and then left? Why cancel?
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Old Jan 29, 19, 5:11 pm
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Originally Posted by ChinaShrek View Post
Shouldn't them have waited for him to sober up and then left? Why cancel?
Because he had to be booked in jail first. It's not exactly a "hey, don't do that again, just chill in the gate area for a while."

Besides, I imagine Delta won't let him fly again until they have completed their internal investigation.
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