Dal3834 diverted from LGA to JFK
Apparently they told pax that they "would have to wait longer at LGA than JFK for a gate" ...! |
Delta on Twitter: Hi Steve, I am showing that DL 3834 landed in JFK due to a mechanical issue that needed to be addressed. As LGA no longer had gate space, the continuation from JFK to LGA was canceled. Me: What kind of mechanical issue would cause them to have to land at an airport 10 miles from the destination? Delta: Regretfully, I do not have the specifics. |
Is it possible that the mechanical issue had to do with the airport rather than the plane? For example, a jet bridge was broken at LGA which would have stranded DL 3834 without another available gate to dock at? I imagine that there are certain times at LGA where there are no spare gates available at all.
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Originally Posted by rucksack
(Post 30712838)
Is it possible that the mechanical issue had to do with the airport rather than the plane? For example, a jet bridge was broken at LGA which would have stranded DL 3834 without another available gate to dock at?
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Originally Posted by stevekstevek
(Post 30712806)
Delta on Twitter: Hi Steve, I am showing that DL 3834 landed in JFK due to a mechanical issue that needed to be addressed. As LGA no longer had gate space, the continuation from JFK to LGA was canceled. Me: What kind of mechanical issue would cause them to have to land at an airport 10 miles from the destination? Delta: Regretfully, I do not have the specifics. |
Originally Posted by stevekstevek
(Post 30712849)
I'm pretty sure they have more than one gate which can handle an e175. I suppose they don't have any connections, but they have up to 76pax, each of who could have family waiting for them at LGA. Regarding landing at the wrong airport, it's definitely an inconvenience, but to me it seems like a much more reasonable option than delaying the flight further and wasting fuel hopping from JFK to LGA. |
Originally Posted by jrkmsp
(Post 30712850)
Hydraulics, flaps, overweight — basically anything that requires a longer runway. LGA has a short, narrow runway. It’s common for airlines to divert to JFK if they think they need some extra pavement to stop. |
Is it possible that the maintenance the aircraft required would be more easily serviced at JFK? Maybe an issue was discovered inflight and dispatch figured "might as well put the plane somewhere they can fix it".
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Landing a aircraft at the wrong airport is a huge cost for the airline. They don’t do it because gates are occupied. Jfk is just as gate restricted as LGA. You also now have a crew at the wrong airport and a outbound flight you have to cancel. It’s a very expensive decision. Why would they go to JFK? Thrust reverser issues, brake issues, flap issues, slat issues, NWS issues, trim issues Navigation equipment issues ect... There are many possible reasons. |
Originally Posted by jrkmsp
(Post 30712850)
Hydraulics, flaps, overweight — basically anything that requires a longer runway. LGA has a short, narrow runway. It’s common for airlines to divert to JFK if they think they need some extra pavement to stop. |
Happened to me a few months ago. Flight was 2 hrs delayed for weather. Delta had to pay for a taxi from JFK to LGA so I could pick up my car.
It was land at JFK or not at all because "no available gates" |
Originally Posted by readywhenyouare
(Post 30713195)
LGA can handle a 767-400. That 767-400 must be capable of safely rejecting a takeoff on the runway at LGA. I don't think there would have been any issue with an E175 running off the end of the runway... |
Originally Posted by readywhenyouare
(Post 30713195)
LGA can handle a 767-400. That 767-400 must be capable of safely rejecting a takeoff on the runway at LGA. I don't think there would have been any issue with an E175 running off the end of the runway... Delta jet makes emergency landing at JFK airport https://www.google.com/amp/s/pix11.c...ng-at-jfk/amp/ The reality is, when you think you’re going to have an issue slowing down, you look for the longest runway you can find. |
Originally Posted by readywhenyouare
(Post 30713195)
LGA can handle a 767-400. That 767-400 must be capable of safely rejecting a takeoff on the runway at LGA. I don't think there would have been any issue with an E175 running off the end of the runway... Edit: Saying LGA "can handle a 767-400" isn't telling the whole story. Sure, a lightly loaded 764 could get in an out of LGA with no mechanical issues. However, a 767-400, at MTOW on a warm day, needs 11,000' for a balanced field takeoff. And you bet if that 767 took off, had a mechanical issue and had to return for an overweight landing, it wasn't going to come back to LGA. |
Originally Posted by stevekstevek
(Post 30712869)
I don't buy it. It's an e175, flying from Houston. Not a heavy pax load. LGA isn't that short for a regional to land (need a lot less to land than takeoff). Sounds like they were congested at LGA, and it was easier to dump their pax at JFK. Worked in system control for many years. I can't ever recall an airplane diverting to another airport just because a gate wasn't immediately available. We don't have the whole story here, but LGA has other considerations (curfew, lack of ramp space to hold) so perhaps LGA tower wouldn't let them land? Of course, there's also the whole Gov't shutdown thing going on that LGA has been in the center of. Unknown how or if that could be an issue. DL says it was a mechanical issue, so far, there doesn't seem to be any reason to refute that. Without any contrary evidence, I'll take DL's reason over the reason allegedly said by "they". |
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