Weather Waiver for Jan 27th - when will they issue?
Jan 26, 2019, 2:41 pm
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For standby (SDS), you literally wait at the gate and hope to get on, so it's better if you can avoid checking a bag. Elites have somewhat different rules for this, so I can't tell you all the details. Of course, your credit card is only charged if you actually get a seat on the flight.
Jan 26, 2019, 2:42 pm
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I really think you are over stating the chances of a cancellation. It is MUCH easier for an airline that doesn't operate a hub to fly to the hub that is affected. They just don't have the mass operation problems than the home airlines do. Either of us could be wrong but I think it is "likely" that the flight will operate as scheduled and obviously Delta agrees at this time.
Jan 26, 2019, 2:46 pm
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I'm flying from AMS to MSP tomorrow (operated by KLM, sold by DL) and I just had a call with DL to double check. No advisory in place, it might change later, but the flight as of now is programmed.
Jan 26, 2019, 2:52 pm
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Are you scheduled to take any other DL/KLM flights tomorrow?
Have you tried to check flight status on the DL and KLM websites? Can you tell whether the flight is overbooked/oversold?
If you don't hear that the flight has been delayed or cancelled, do OLCI to make sure that your ticket is OK. Your DL PNR and "time to check in" email will probably send you to the KLM website to do this. I'd also try to get to the airport early in case there are problems.
ADDED: As of now, the DL app is showing all three AMS-MSP nonstops for tomorrow (Sunday January 27th) operating on time, DL at 10:40 am and 12:50 pm, then your KLM flight at 5:00 pm. There's a DL flight to DTW at 3:20, also on time, but the KLM nonstop to ATL at 4:50 pm is CANCELLED.
Based on this, my best guess is that DL/KLM are trying to move passengers around to other flights that are operating tomorrow, so they might want to pay you to take an earlier flight or connection to MSP.
Have you tried to check flight status on the DL and KLM websites? Can you tell whether the flight is overbooked/oversold?
If you don't hear that the flight has been delayed or cancelled, do OLCI to make sure that your ticket is OK. Your DL PNR and "time to check in" email will probably send you to the KLM website to do this. I'd also try to get to the airport early in case there are problems.
ADDED: As of now, the DL app is showing all three AMS-MSP nonstops for tomorrow (Sunday January 27th) operating on time, DL at 10:40 am and 12:50 pm, then your KLM flight at 5:00 pm. There's a DL flight to DTW at 3:20, also on time, but the KLM nonstop to ATL at 4:50 pm is CANCELLED.
Based on this, my best guess is that DL/KLM are trying to move passengers around to other flights that are operating tomorrow, so they might want to pay you to take an earlier flight or connection to MSP.
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Jan 26, 2019, 2:57 pm
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Its MAD-AMS-MSP, all KLM, DL sold. Both airlines say the flight is on schedule and I checked in in the morning (it wasn't overbooked then). The thing is I do have to be in MSP Sunday, because I'm leaving Wed morning for LIM, and I have some meetings at the U. The earlier flights that put me in MSP before the storm would be either the 2 DL AMS flights or the CDG that arrives at 12.50, but I'd need to be in the airport at 6.40, and without a weather advisory I'm not doing that...
Jan 26, 2019, 3:28 pm
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If you've successfully done OLCI and were able to get boarding passes with seat assignments, you should be good to go.
My guess is that DL/KLM may be trying to "firm" flights tomorrow, meaning they verify whether ticketed customers intend to fly, so that they can find TATL seats from AMS for passengers displaced from the cancelled late ATL nonstop.
The weather here is expected to snow Sunday/Monday and then get extremely cold, with the worst day being Wednesday. MSP is good at keeping the airport operational regardless of the weather, but traffic on the roadways is likely to be horrendous (even though people who can will try to work from home and IMO there's a chance that the university will officially close for part of this period) so be sure to allow extra time (and more money) for taxi/uber rides. The light rail connecting the airport with downtown/campus should also operate, but you don't want to be waiting outside for public transportation in this weather. In fact, the cold is extremely dangerous, with a risk of frostbite after only a few minutes. You need serious winter clothing for this, including a hat and gloves as well as a heavy coat and appropriate footwear. It's not like the weather in Spain.
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Jan 26, 2019, 3:40 pm
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Looks like they just issued a weather waiver but Chicago is not included at this time. I have a strong feeling I’ll be spending the night in Atlanta tomorrow night. Ugh
Jan 26, 2019, 3:52 pm
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Scrap that, after the advisory came I called again and got rerouted via CDG, and will be arriving before the snow starts.
Thanks for the advice, but this is not my first MInneapolis winter (remember kids: dress in layers!). I just got tired of it and moved to Spain because I couldn't take the snow, cold and their effect in people....
And also: OMG! What is that white thing falling from the sky? .... in January, ..... in Minneapolis!
Thanks for the advice, but this is not my first MInneapolis winter (remember kids: dress in layers!). I just got tired of it and moved to Spain because I couldn't take the snow, cold and their effect in people....
And also: OMG! What is that white thing falling from the sky? .... in January, ..... in Minneapolis!
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Jan 26, 2019, 4:11 pm
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Scrap that, after the advisory came I called again and got rerouted via CDG, and will be arriving before the snow starts.
Thanks for the advice, but this is not my first MInneapolis winter (remember kids: dress in layers!). I just got tired of it and moved to Spain because I couldn't take the snow, cold and their effect in people....
And also: OMG! What is that white thing falling from the sky? .... in January, ..... in Minneapolis!
Thanks for the advice, but this is not my first MInneapolis winter (remember kids: dress in layers!). I just got tired of it and moved to Spain because I couldn't take the snow, cold and their effect in people....
And also: OMG! What is that white thing falling from the sky? .... in January, ..... in Minneapolis!
Very good. You were obviously watching the situation and moved very quickly to get yourself rebooked. Enjoy the blizzard.
It's our first real snowstorm of the season and you know what that means.....
It's our first real snowstorm of the season and you know what that means.....
Jan 26, 2019, 4:29 pm
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We've been trying to annex the whole state for years. The only thing that matters is that pilots can find MKE (if you want/need to go there).
BTW, for wind speed, you can look at the wind chill numbers and work back.
BTW, for wind speed, you can look at the wind chill numbers and work back.
Jan 26, 2019, 4:30 pm
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Let me guess: buses running 2 to 3 hours late, Green and Blue Lines will shut down at some point. Crashes, cars stuck in the highway, but the red Target logo shining high and bright in Nicollet Mall
Jan 26, 2019, 4:36 pm
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Something like that: 500 metro area crashes during morning rush hour, most people several hours late to work, local schools all starting two hours late with no kindergarten and rural school districts closed completely, downtown looking pretty deserted except for high school age girls in flip flops or very high heels and guys wearing shorts under their Arctic ski parkas. However, the light rail system claims that it works in bad weather. We'll see.
I've been told that there's now an app that enables you to see how late the bus will be.
I've been told that there's now an app that enables you to see how late the bus will be.