Was anyone on DL1455 SFO -> SEA?
Jan 26, 2019, 12:39 am
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Was anyone on DL1455 SFO -> SEA?
The plane banked hard right suddenly for a few seconds while we were descending at about 3000ft, then quickly corrected and leveled out again. A lot of people in the cabin gasped.
Does anyone either know what happened or might be able to provide a reasonably educated guess as to why this might happen? It was a bit jarring for me.
Does anyone either know what happened or might be able to provide a reasonably educated guess as to why this might happen? It was a bit jarring for me.
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Jan 26, 2019, 12:56 am
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The plane banked hard right suddenly for a few seconds while we were descending at about 3000ft, then quickly corrected and leveled out again. A lot of people in the cabin gasped.
Does anyone either know what happened or might be able to provide a reasonably educated guess as to why this might happen? It was a bit jarring for me.
Does anyone either know what happened or might be able to provide a reasonably educated guess as to why this might happen? It was a bit jarring for me.
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Jan 26, 2019, 11:56 am
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The plane banked hard right suddenly for a few seconds while we were descending at about 3000ft, then quickly corrected and leveled out again. A lot of people in the cabin gasped.
Does anyone either know what happened or might be able to provide a reasonably educated guess as to why this might happen? It was a bit jarring for me.
Does anyone either know what happened or might be able to provide a reasonably educated guess as to why this might happen? It was a bit jarring for me.
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Jan 26, 2019, 12:33 pm
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I don't want to completely discount your concern, but it is possible this was a "normal" routing maneuver the pilot did. Looking at flightaware (https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flig...404Z/KSFO/KSEA), while passing through 3,000ft, the aircraft made a pretty tight right turn. I can only imagine the bank angle needed to turn a plane 90 degrees in 30 seconds.
I have had some approaches into airport where pilots make tight turns, and inevitably people gasp, but it looks like your pilot may have been more "deliberate" with their actions
I have had some approaches into airport where pilots make tight turns, and inevitably people gasp, but it looks like your pilot may have been more "deliberate" with their actions
Jan 26, 2019, 12:37 pm
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I don't want to completely discount your concern, but it is possible this was a "normal" routing maneuver the pilot did. Looking at flightaware (https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flig...404Z/KSFO/KSEA), while passing through 3,000ft, the aircraft made a pretty tight right turn. I can only imagine the bank angle needed to turn a plane 90 degrees in 30 seconds.
I have had some approaches into airport where pilots make tight turns, and inevitably people gasp, but it looks like your pilot may have been more "deliberate" with their actions
I have had some approaches into airport where pilots make tight turns, and inevitably people gasp, but it looks like your pilot may have been more "deliberate" with their actions
https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flig...350Z/KSFO/KSEA
LGA arrivals get the kamikaze approach that involves hairpin turns at even lower altitude.
And on windy days EWR uses an extra short runway for arrivals (29) that involves some steep banks and an off angle approach that puts you a little too close to cranes at the port and traffic on the highway. That one's an amusement park ride on a widebody like I had earlier this week.
Jan 26, 2019, 12:47 pm
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I don't want to completely discount your concern, but it is possible this was a "normal" routing maneuver the pilot did. Looking at flightaware (https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flig...404Z/KSFO/KSEA), while passing through 3,000ft, the aircraft made a pretty tight right turn. I can only imagine the bank angle needed to turn a plane 90 degrees in 30 seconds.
I have had some approaches into airport where pilots make tight turns, and inevitably people gasp, but it looks like your pilot may have been more "deliberate" with their actions
I have had some approaches into airport where pilots make tight turns, and inevitably people gasp, but it looks like your pilot may have been more "deliberate" with their actions
There are some airports that are fun this way: SAN and the old Hong Kong airport come to mind.
Jan 26, 2019, 1:46 pm
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I'm surprise they came in over the Bay and had you make a 180 degree turn to the right when coming in from the north. Usually, it's a left turn before you get into the final approach to SFO when coming from the north on a normal traffic flow day.
Did your flight land on 28R?
On that approach, you have to go between SFO and OAK before turning back to land at SFO, so there isn't a lot of space for turning and you can't go much further down the bay because you'll be into SJC's takeoff pattern.
Did your flight land on 28R?
On that approach, you have to go between SFO and OAK before turning back to land at SFO, so there isn't a lot of space for turning and you can't go much further down the bay because you'll be into SJC's takeoff pattern.
Jan 26, 2019, 3:38 pm
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I'm surprise they came in over the Bay and had you make a 180 degree turn to the right when coming in from the north. Usually, it's a left turn before you get into the final approach to SFO when coming from the north on a normal traffic flow day.
Did your flight land on 28R?
On that approach, you have to go between SFO and OAK before turning back to land at SFO, so there isn't a lot of space for turning and you can't go much further down the bay because you'll be into SJC's takeoff pattern.
Did your flight land on 28R?
On that approach, you have to go between SFO and OAK before turning back to land at SFO, so there isn't a lot of space for turning and you can't go much further down the bay because you'll be into SJC's takeoff pattern.
Jan 26, 2019, 4:01 pm
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I don't want to completely discount your concern, but it is possible this was a "normal" routing maneuver the pilot did. Looking at flightaware (https://uk.flightaware.com/live/flig...404Z/KSFO/KSEA), while passing through 3,000ft, the aircraft made a pretty tight right turn. I can only imagine the bank angle needed to turn a plane 90 degrees in 30 seconds.
I have had some approaches into airport where pilots make tight turns, and inevitably people gasp, but it looks like your pilot may have been more "deliberate" with their actions
I have had some approaches into airport where pilots make tight turns, and inevitably people gasp, but it looks like your pilot may have been more "deliberate" with their actions
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Jan 26, 2019, 4:36 pm
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Actually thanks for the info, I always am curious if I am about to die when I sense tight turns and whatnot while on approach to JFK doesn't happen much but sometimes at JFK they do like a U turn and we land sometimes it feels tight but maybe it's my imagination.
Jan 26, 2019, 11:44 pm
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I'm surprise they came in over the Bay and had you make a 180 degree turn to the right when coming in from the north. Usually, it's a left turn before you get into the final approach to SFO when coming from the north on a normal traffic flow day.
Did your flight land on 28R?
On that approach, you have to go between SFO and OAK before turning back to land at SFO, so there isn't a lot of space for turning and you can't go much further down the bay because you'll be into SJC's takeoff pattern.
Did your flight land on 28R?
On that approach, you have to go between SFO and OAK before turning back to land at SFO, so there isn't a lot of space for turning and you can't go much further down the bay because you'll be into SJC's takeoff pattern.
we made such a right-hand-turn approach on DL5738 SEA-SFO on Monday, which I did take note of at the time for being unusual https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...202Z/KSEA/KSFO
Jan 27, 2019, 11:16 am
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As noted above, OP was talking about SFO-SEA, but since you mentioned it we made such a right-hand-turn approach on DL5738 SEA-SFO on Monday, which I did take note of at the time for being unusual
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...202Z/KSEA/KSFO
we made such a right-hand-turn approach on DL5738 SEA-SFO on Monday, which I did take note of at the time for being unusualhttps://flightaware.com/live/flight/...202Z/KSEA/KSFO