Delta & Qatar Feud
Dec 24, 2018, 5:48 pm
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MLW is a secondary airport in Monrovia, with limited and erratic service. ROB is what qualifies as the major airport in the country.
All air service to/from the country was severely impacted by the Ebola outbreak a few years back and it has yet to recover at all. Sierra Leone was similarly impacted. It has nothing to do with JVs.
All air service to/from the country was severely impacted by the Ebola outbreak a few years back and it has yet to recover at all. Sierra Leone was similarly impacted. It has nothing to do with JVs.
Dec 24, 2018, 6:07 pm
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How do you know it’s 10’s of billions of dollars? Just throwing a number out there or have proof?
Dec 24, 2018, 9:48 pm
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EK, alone, admitted to nearly $10bn. And that is just what they admitted to. Even if one doesn’t believe the US3’s claims of more than $50bn, it is almost certainly in the tens of billions.
Dec 24, 2018, 9:49 pm
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Dec 24, 2018, 10:07 pm
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Dec 24, 2018, 10:47 pm
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I suggest you try again. You can view a handy calendar view here: Delta Air Lines Map. Just click "Flights" on the top right, type in ATL-DUS/STR, and you can clearly see they operate year-round.
Dec 25, 2018, 5:41 am
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Dec 25, 2018, 5:53 am
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Don't many flights have reduced frequency around the holidays due to lower demand? I wouldn't use lack of service over Christmas week as an indicator of seasonal vs year round as those terms are commonly understood in regards to airline flights.
Dec 25, 2018, 2:15 pm
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This article is from a biased non-objective group that does not even provide any objective facts and figures about how exactly the JVs have resulted in overall consumer harm. It is no different than what some of you have been accusing Delta and the Partnership for Open Skies of doing on the opposite side. I am asking for a before and after comparison of measurable quantifiable stuff like average fares, number of flights/seats, etc. Everything else is anecdotal and subjective.
New nonstop TATL routes by Delta that did not touch AMS or CDG:
Summer 2017
JFK-TXL
JFK-LIS
JFK-GLA
PDX-LHR
BOS-DUB
Summer 2018
JFK-LOS
JFK-PDL
Summer 2019
BOS-LIS
BOS-EDI
JFK-TLV - additional service (2nd daily nonstop)
Dec 25, 2018, 3:42 pm
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This article is from a biased non-objective group that does not even provide any objective facts and figures about how exactly the JVs have resulted in overall consumer harm. It is no different than what some of you have been accusing Delta and the Partnership for Open Skies of doing on the opposite side. I am asking for a before and after comparison of measurable quantifiable stuff like average fares, number of flights/seats, etc. Everything else is anecdotal and subjective.
Fact check:
New nonstop TATL routes by Delta that did not touch AMS or CDG:
Summer 2017
JFK-TXL
JFK-LIS
JFK-GLA
PDX-LHR
BOS-DUB
Summer 2018
JFK-LOS
JFK-PDL
Summer 2019
BOS-LIS
BOS-EDI
JFK-TLV - additional service (2nd daily nonstop)
As has been pointed out to you, ATL-STR and ATL-DUS most definitely are year-round services. And yes, they both even operated on Dec 23, a date you claimed saw no nonstop service. DL116 ATL-STR on 12/23 was operated by a 764 ship 1801 (N825MH) while DL90 ATL-DUS was operated by another 764 ship 1821 (N845MH). This being Christmas, both flights are not operating on 12/24 and 12/25 out of ATL. But they both resume on 12/26.
Fact check:
New nonstop TATL routes by Delta that did not touch AMS or CDG:
Summer 2017
JFK-TXL
JFK-LIS
JFK-GLA
PDX-LHR
BOS-DUB
Summer 2018
JFK-LOS
JFK-PDL
Summer 2019
BOS-LIS
BOS-EDI
JFK-TLV - additional service (2nd daily nonstop)
As has been pointed out to you, ATL-STR and ATL-DUS most definitely are year-round services. And yes, they both even operated on Dec 23, a date you claimed saw no nonstop service. DL116 ATL-STR on 12/23 was operated by a 764 ship 1801 (N825MH) while DL90 ATL-DUS was operated by another 764 ship 1821 (N845MH). This being Christmas, both flights are not operating on 12/24 and 12/25 out of ATL. But they both resume on 12/26.
And please tell us, why is it good for the consumer to have flights consolidated? Delta, Air France, and KLM used to all have to compete on price. No more though, they are now allowed to participate in price fixing. The consumer gets screwed.
Dec 25, 2018, 7:08 pm
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It was most likely the days you selected. Neither flight normally operates on Tuesdays or Wednesdays. It’s there the rest of the week. Both routes are there year-round, just not daily - no different from some domestic routes that aren’t operated daily but only on certain days of the week. In the case of STR/DUS, it’s there 5 out of 7 days most of the year.
Last edited by DF136BRC; Dec 25, 2018 at 7:15 pm