DL appears to have another BOS buildup coming
#31
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BOS-ORD is great news. Slowly but surely I can finally ditch flying UA. A bit of a bummer that we have to wait almost a year for this route though. Seems awfully early to load the flight
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Big surprise, horrible yields, I regularly get $40-$50 OW fares in the winter with WN(MDW)/UA/AA/B6 competing. The yields on this route are so bad if I was AA/UA I'd consider downgrading the 737/757 service to CR9/CR7 service.
#34
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No doubt some big spending companies told DL BOS-ORD was table stakes for some of their continued business.
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5' cut-off for boarding and the shuttle (95% of the time) using the gates on the building on the concourse side vs. the gates further out at BOS make a big difference. Plus shuttles tend to have more standardized times of departure (e.g., on the hour). Lastly I think corporate fares are structured differently too, I know my company gets us heavily discounted Y tickets for the BOS-LGA shuttle vs. "normal" refundable fares for other flights.
#38
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Ouch - this had already been cut from hourly, eliminating the 11am and 1pm southbound. I wonder which other 2 frequencies are going (though 6x daily for BOS suggests they're taking 2x from LGA and 4x from somewhere else). Lack of hourly on the shuttle makes it much less useful but DL already had pretty much exclusively E70s (rather than E75s), and my guess is Acela takes more traffic NYC-WAS than NYC-BOS (the train trip to WAS is almost a whole hour faster than to it is to BOS). I wonder if BOS-ORD/DCA will be marketed as Shuttle (only difference nowadays being pretty much free beer/wine in coach).
#39
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LGA-BOS works because Amtrak has to share with Metro North, and the Acela is frequently delayed during rush hour as a result.
Between DC and NYC though, Amtrak doesn't have that issue, and the train beats flying in almost every situation. I'm surprised that the shuttle has held on this long. If the Hudson tunnels take a turn for the worse flying will make a resurgence but right now the Acela is king.
Between DC and NYC though, Amtrak doesn't have that issue, and the train beats flying in almost every situation. I'm surprised that the shuttle has held on this long. If the Hudson tunnels take a turn for the worse flying will make a resurgence but right now the Acela is king.
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But even putting that aside, the best case for NYP-BOS is about 3h30 due to the numerous curves, low speeds, and outdated infrastructure through much of the NEC from roughly New Rochelle to New London. That's just slow enough to be less competitive with flying for many trips.
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#44
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Me too. I'd much be on a mainline jet for those long taxi times, and those flights are less likely to be axed when things go south.
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From what I understand, that was supposed to be either an International Fire Class or dedicated Business Elite lounge for Delta, before Delta did away with those things. It would make sense that a growing Delta with more international flights from Boston could now use all of that space.
I'm glad the space finally has a future.