Originally Posted by jrkmsp
(Post 30518577)
Press release is out: https://news.delta.com/delta-adds-mo...-washington-dc
Some interesting nuggets including a SkyClub expansion, taking full ownership of Terminal A by 3Q 2019, and BOS-CLE also being launched, 3x daily on April 1: There is (i'm told) a similar sized space that is unoccupied/not leased immediately to the left as you get off the lifts (behind the unmarked double doors). It's basically the other half of the "triangle" and would look out at gates 18-22. I hope that's it (rather than densifying the current club) |
Originally Posted by 3Cforme
(Post 30518603)
Maybe. But one could have said the same thing when they started LGA-ORD (against ~30 AA/UA flights), or LAX-SFO. Those have both have proven durable for Delta.
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Originally Posted by SFTNYC
(Post 30518607)
I hope the SkyClub expansion doesn't come at the expense of the business area behind the bar but segregated business areas in the lounges seem to be a thing of the past...
There is (i'm told) a similar sized space that is unoccupied/not leased immediately to the left as you get off the lifts (behind the unmarked double doors). It's basically the other half of the "triangle" and would look out at gates 18-22. I hope that's it (rather than densifying the current club) |
Originally Posted by 3Cforme
(Post 30518603)
Maybe. But one could have said the same thing when they started LGA-ORD (against ~30 AA/UA flights), or LAX-SFO. Those have both have proven durable for Delta.
BOS - LGA 184 mi LAX - SFO 337 m BOS - ORD 867 mi - 79% longer than LGA and 61% longer than LAX/SFO It might work out great but I have my doubts |
Has DL given up on the whole customs/immigration thing at A? Post-9/11 Massport nixed the idea entirely. But in summer 2019, Terminal E will be fuller than it's ever been with more DL flights, KE, KL, etc. It would seem that NOW Massport would be more willing to lessen the burden on Terminal E by letting DL do its own thing over at A.
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It was CBP, not Massport, that killed the Terminal A customs and immigration area. CBP didn't want to staff two areas at BOS. I think the room is still there underneath the terminal to build another area, but my instinct is that CBP would still say no due to the increased costs.
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Originally Posted by WWads
(Post 30518633)
I really think that DL's advantages when it comes to reliability and service allow them to break into these heavily-served routes.
It will annoy the B6 partisans but I'm going to point out that B6 is a particularly unreliable carrier with regards to on-time performance and rate of cancellations. It's not just ice storms shutting down JFK - on-time performance is bad month after month. Look at DL@BOS vs. B6@BOS. JFK vs. JFK. https://www.transportation.gov/sites...-2018-atcr.pdf |
Really interested in seeing how AA and B6 react to this. PHL/ORD/DCA are all AA hubs.
And with ORD getting both RDU and BOS next year, it has to be a matter of time before DL adds LAX-ORD too if they really have or are getting the gate space. Pretty much the only hub left without ORD service. |
Originally Posted by ab2013
(Post 30518886)
Really interested in seeing how AA and B6 react to this. PHL/ORD/DCA are all AA hubs.
And with ORD getting both RDU and BOS next year, it has to be a matter of time before DL adds LAX-ORD too if they really have or are getting the gate space. Pretty much the only hub left without ORD service. Between DL and their JV's with KL, AF, AM, KE, and the MU codeshare, they have ORD to ATL, CVG, LGA, DTW, MSP, SLC, SEA, BOS, RDU ICN, PVG, AMS, CDG, MEX, and GDL Throw in a potential LAX, AUS, SFO, and very quietly DL's built a pretty good route map at ORD, especially with them being the only airline (I think at least) with flights at ORD and MDW. |
Volaris also (according to Wikipedia) has flights at ORD and MDW.
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Originally Posted by WWads
(Post 30518633)
I really think that DL's advantages when it comes to reliability and service allow them to break into these heavily-served routes. A lot of business travelers go out of their way to fly DL if they can. Just look at ORD. DL is a minor player yet the SC is always bursting at the seams and they desperately want more gates.
The ORD SkyClub is always packed because it's relatively small and the folks that do travel Delta to ORD are most likely to have status - since otherwise they would have taken one of the other carriers to Chicago. It's the same effect you get on routes like ATL->Houston or ATL->Phoenix. Upgrade lists are always abnormally long because you get leakage to other carriers. |
Originally Posted by VFR
(Post 30518979)
Volaris also (according to Wikipedia) has flights at ORD and MDW.
It's really the only absolute advantage DL has in CHI. DL has the OTP and Completion factor but those are system averages and if DL only cancels one flight a day, it doesn't mean anything if it's yours! |
Originally Posted by kop84
(Post 30519267)
It's really the only absolute advantage DL has in CHI. DL has the OTP and Completion factor but those are system averages and if DL only cancels one flight a day, it doesn't mean anything if it's yours!
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Originally Posted by jrkmsp
(Post 30518577)
It would seem the BOS-CLE add was a last minute reaction to United pulling out of the market this weekend, as the other flights are available for sale, but BOS-CLE won't be available until Dec. 22, even though it starts sooner. |
Amazing! DCA and ORD are the reason that I've had 30 segments split this year between AA and B6. 100 segments on DL + 4 on AA for BOS<>CLT and 2 on B6 for BOS<>SAN. Huge for me being able to consolidate with DL (and I missed both mosaic and AA gold by a hair).
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