Two cheaper than one?

Old Dec 4, 2018, 9:07 am
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Two cheaper than one?

I was looking for fares to CDG in Delta One in April, and saw ~ $2,550 on some searches but ~ $2,750 on other searches. I then realized that if I searched for one passenger it was always $2,750, but for two passengers it was $2,550 per person. I have never seen this before. I did book for two on the same PNR, while originally my plan was to use two different credit cards and two PNRs.

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Old Dec 4, 2018, 9:37 am
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DL has had a number of D1 sales in the past that require the purchase of two tickets. This is nothing new.
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Old Dec 4, 2018, 11:41 am
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AF currently has a sale (DUO Business) and DL usually prices their JV flights to match the promo.
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Old Dec 4, 2018, 12:46 pm
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Originally Posted by ehe123
I was looking for fares to CDG in Delta One in April, and saw ~ $2,550 on some searches but ~ $2,750 on other searches. I then realized that if I searched for one passenger it was always $2,750, but for two passengers it was $2,550 per person. I have never seen this before. I did book for two on the same PNR, while originally my plan was to use two different credit cards and two PNRs.
This is very cheap for a D1 ticket, but it would help to know the origin and whether it's a RT or not.

In fact, is there any chance that what you're really seeing would be fares for the new Premium Select (premium economy, much better than C+) given that DL has been changing their fare classes? I'd be very careful about buying any third party tickets due to this as OLTAs are frequently confused about booking classes. April travel should be under the new fare class scheme and wouldn't be an obvious time for very low business class demand so that good prices would be offered (as they often are around the Thanksgiving and Christmas holiday periods) unless you're looking at some particularly "lucky" dates (I wouldn't think the long Easter weekend would make much difference).
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Old Dec 4, 2018, 2:02 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
This is very cheap for a D1 ticket, but it would help to know the origin and whether it's a RT or not.
Sorry, I should have clarified. These are RT fares, X-ATL-CDG, CDG-ATL-X. They were also from Delta.com, and not some consolidator's fare.These are most certainly in Delta One, and they are Z-class fares. They are very low, but such Z-class fares to Europe can be found, and I grab them far in advance. I had never seen the 2-person discount before, but others obviously have.
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Originally Posted by ehe123
Sorry, I should have clarified. These are RT fares, X-ATL-CDG, CDG-ATL-X. They were also from Delta.com, and not some consolidator's fare.These are most certainly in Delta One, and they are Z-class fares. They are very low, but such Z-class fares to Europe can be found, and I grab them far in advance. I had never seen the 2-person discount before, but others obviously have.
I didn't know that Delta flies to "X". (I'll never understand why posters do that.)
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Old Dec 4, 2018, 2:17 pm
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I didn't know that Delta flies to "X". (I'll never understand why posters do that.)
I did that because the fare does not depend upon the originating airport! So X can represent a number of different airports. You can let X=RIC, but you can also put in other origins and get the same fare.
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Ahhh...thanks for the reply.
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(I'll never understand why posters do that.)
Privacy. Not everyone wants their public profile to be linked to a city or a departure date/time.
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Old Dec 4, 2018, 2:40 pm
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Fare filing ZQ1N76D1. Travel dates are pretty restrictive (around US holidays). Good for up to 8 companions

MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL SECTORS IN SAME COMPARTMENT
BY AT LEAST 1 ADULT PSGR. NO MORE THAN 8 ACCOMPANIED
PASSENGERS PERMITTED FOR EACH ADULT PSGR.

OUTBOUND -
PERMITTED 18NOV18 THROUGH 24NOV18 OR 23DEC18 THROUGH
25DEC18 OR 27DEC18 THROUGH 03JAN19 OR ON 06JAN19 OR
14APR19 THROUGH 21APR19 OR 25MAY19 THROUGH 29MAY19
OR 01JUL19 THROUGH 07JUL19 OR 31AUG19 THROUGH
02SEP19 OR 24NOV19 THROUGH 30NOV19
INBOUND -
OR 18NOV18 THROUGH 24NOV18 OR 23DEC18 THROUGH
03JAN19 OR ON 06JAN19 OR 21APR19 THROUGH 04MAY19 OR
25MAY19 THROUGH 01JUN19 OR 01JUL19 THROUGH 07JUL19
OR 24NOV19 THROUGH 30NOV19 OR 21DEC19 THROUGH
04JAN20 OR 29AUG19 THROUGH 09SEP19 FOR EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON TRIP DATE.

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Ah, so it is the long Easter holiday weekend in April, as well as Fourth of July, Memeorial Day, etc.
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Old Dec 5, 2018, 1:10 am
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Originally Posted by LBJ
Fare filing ZQ1N76D1. Travel dates are pretty restrictive (around US holidays). Good for up to 8 companions

MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL SECTORS IN SAME COMPARTMENT
BY AT LEAST 1 ADULT PSGR. NO MORE THAN 8 ACCOMPANIED
PASSENGERS PERMITTED FOR EACH ADULT PSGR.

OUTBOUND -
PERMITTED 18NOV18 THROUGH 24NOV18 OR 23DEC18 THROUGH
25DEC18 OR 27DEC18 THROUGH 03JAN19 OR ON 06JAN19 OR
14APR19 THROUGH 21APR19 OR 25MAY19 THROUGH 29MAY19
OR 01JUL19 THROUGH 07JUL19 OR 31AUG19 THROUGH
02SEP19 OR 24NOV19 THROUGH 30NOV19
INBOUND -
OR 18NOV18 THROUGH 24NOV18 OR 23DEC18 THROUGH
03JAN19 OR ON 06JAN19 OR 21APR19 THROUGH 04MAY19 OR
25MAY19 THROUGH 01JUN19 OR 01JUL19 THROUGH 07JUL19
OR 24NOV19 THROUGH 30NOV19 OR 21DEC19 THROUGH
04JAN20 OR 29AUG19 THROUGH 09SEP19 FOR EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED ON TRIP DATE.
Is Epiphany a significant disruption to US origin traffic?
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Old Dec 5, 2018, 8:31 am
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Is Epiphany a significant disruption to US origin traffic?
I wouldn't think so, although some countries in Europe make it into a very long (ten days or so) "weekend"/vacation, so it could be difficult to schedule business meetings between the Thursday before Palm Sunday and the Tuesday or Wednesday after Easter Sunday, which would be not much less than two full weeks. It tends to be a school vacation period and Germany, for instance, recognizes Easter Monday as a holiday too IIRC.
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
I wouldn't think so, although some countries in Europe make it into a very long (ten days or so) "weekend"/vacation, so it could be difficult to schedule business meetings between the Thursday before Palm Sunday and the Tuesday or Wednesday after Easter Sunday, which would be not much less than two full weeks. It tends to be a school vacation period and Germany, for instance, recognizes Easter Monday as a holiday too IIRC.
Should have cropped that down a bit - was referring to Jan 6th [there may be more than one Epiphany?] - I'd noticed it on some AA fares for US origin and was pretty puzzled by the one straggling day.
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Originally Posted by etiene
Should have cropped that down a bit - was referring to Jan 6th [there may be more than one Epiphany?] - I'd noticed it on some AA fares for US origin and was pretty puzzled by the one straggling day.
Sorry. I saw the April dates and immediately thought Easter, without checking the calendar.

BTW, January 6th is a Sunday in 2019.
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