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how to book DL segment by segment?
Is there a website that allows for the selection of flights per segment as part of a multi-segment itinerary?
for example: LAX-ATL Z (on 772) ATL-NAS Z DL.com now won’t even present flights when using multi-segment Expedia multi-segment same as DL.com AMEX/Chase portals now Expedia engine. Kayak same as DL.com. Google Flights prices in D for DL.com link but shows the Z price as says “use a travel agent”. Some luck with Priceline. I can select from a subset of flights per segment, but the desired 77W is not one of them. Any other ideas? |
you can call them and ask them to sell you the ticket point to point. they should be able to do that over the phone. good luck.
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Have you tried https://matrix.itasoftware.com and then https://bookwithmatrix.com? What dates are you looking at?
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IME multi-city booking now on delta.dumb only shows you combinations of flights that aren't connections (more than 4/24 hours for domestic/international), but you should be able to call and have a DL phone agent put together the segments you want, assuming that they don't violate MCT. You might even be able to get a through fare rather than buying each segment as a separate fare (point to point pricing). A good real live human TA should also be able to do this, but a ticketing fee will be charged. |
Originally Posted by Weekend Away
(Post 30454833)
Have you tried https://matrix.itasoftware.com and then https://bookwithmatrix.com? What dates are you looking at?
https://www.google.com/flights/#flt=...190*.USD.44190 BookWithMatrix showing $830, same at DL.com I am suspicious that even a travel agent can't book this because I called AMEX Platinum Travel, who priced it at $830 (less a small IAP discount). Suspect a married-segment issue that's wiping out the Z inventory. |
ITA Matrix has issues with married segment logic when using multi-city searches. It incorrectly looks at individual flight fare buckets, rather than the married buckets when quoting fares. If you check on ExpertFlyer, you will see there is only D inventory only July 4th and no Z when the flights are married together. Google uses the same code, but does a final check on inventory at the end and discovers that there is no Z available. Google is wrong to suggest that an agent can book this. Agents can't override the married segment bucket inventory set by the airline.
DL1129 J9 C9 D7 I0 Z0 W9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 K9 L9 U9 T9 X4 V0 E9 DL337 J9 C9 D6 I0 Z0 W9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 K9 L9 U9 T9 X9 V0 E9 There have been several threads here on this issue. |
Married segment non-availability?
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Just call DL. There is no telephone fee.
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Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 30455984)
Just call DL. There is no telephone fee.
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I had a similar situation not too terribly long ago when a "standard" routing to Athens from my home airport ran $2400 (Home - DTW - JFK - ATH) but going via ORD (ORD - JFK - ATH) was like $900 and Home to ORD (via DTW) was like $300. When I tried to put the whole thing on one PNR, the price immediately went to $2400, but on separate PNRs they honored the $900/300. Checking in at my home airport I had them look up both itineraries (it was all Delta metal) and they were able to check my bags all the way through. On paper, it was 2 trips, but I only had to check bags once and clear security once.
Having said that, I haaaaated going that route. If anything had gone sideways on the trip from home to ORD, I'd have been treated as a no-show for the ORD-ATH portion, and that would have been Very Bad. The only reason I even tried it was I had a long (3+ hour) layover at ORD and I knew that if things got really desperate, I had time to rent a car and drive from DTW to ORD if needed. Everything went off without a hitch, but I was nervous until I hit ORD. |
Not the same at all. You changed the routing and took advantage of the cheaper fares out of a competitive market (ORD) vs. an un-competitive hub-hostage market (DTW). Once again, the fare being quoted to OP is NOT a broken fare. There are no broken fare combinations that would give you a $442 fare. It's a simple through fare for LAX-NAS (fare basis code XNNJ0NFX), but unfortunately, one for which there is no actual Z bucket availability. There is Z bucket on the individual flights, but not on the married segments which is all that matters when quoting LAX-NAS through fares.
Note that there is Z bucket available on flights 377, 337 when married. So OP just has to take the 8:05AM flight instead of the 9:30AM flight to ATL to get the $442 fare. |
Originally Posted by reimero
(Post 30456395)
...Having said that, I haaaaated going that route. If anything had gone sideways on the trip from home to ORD, I'd have been treated as a no-show for the ORD-ATH portion, and that would have been Very Bad. The only reason I even tried it was I had a long (3+ hour) layover at ORD and I knew that if things got really desperate, I had time to rent a car and drive from DTW to ORD if needed. Everything went off without a hitch, but I was nervous until I hit ORD.
From all reports DL treats split ticket passengers on DL<>DL flights that miss-connect as they would treat those WX IROP'd on a single ticket (assuming your tickets meet MCT). Though you are correct that DL does not contractually owe you on the miss-connect and would be within legal rights to tell you "so sorry". |
Originally Posted by reimero
(Post 30456395)
I had a similar situation not too terribly long ago when a "standard" routing to Athens from my home airport ran $2400 (Home - DTW - JFK - ATH) but going via ORD (ORD - JFK - ATH) was like $900 and Home to ORD (via DTW) was like $300. When I tried to put the whole thing on one PNR, the price immediately went to $2400, but on separate PNRs they honored the $900/300. Checking in at my home airport I had them look up both itineraries (it was all Delta metal) and they were able to check my bags all the way through. On paper, it was 2 trips, but I only had to check bags once and clear security once.
Having said that, I haaaaated going that route. If anything had gone sideways on the trip from home to ORD, I'd have been treated as a no-show for the ORD-ATH portion, and that would have been Very Bad. The only reason I even tried it was I had a long (3+ hour) layover at ORD and I knew that if things got really desperate, I had time to rent a car and drive from DTW to ORD if needed. Everything went off without a hitch, but I was nervous until I hit ORD. Delta will protect across two tickets, as long as they are both DL tickets and the cause of the delay is on DL, weather, or ATC (aka out of the customer's control). |
I'm not sure whether status makes a difference, but DM and SC agents have always told me that I would be taken care of if there were IROPs problems on separate (DL to DL) tickets. They certainly did at the time of the August (what year was it?) worldwide meltdown supposedly caused by electrical problems at ATL. OTOH, when I'm doing this with a cheap D1 ticket, I try to fly to the airport where the second ticket starts the day before especially if I think there could be risky weather. It's usually also a way to collect a cheap Hyatt night at an OK airport hotel for requalification. I also prefer the overnight connection with an airport hotel along the way to a very early connecting flight when I have time to do this. |
it is definitely possible to use some tactics to bypass married segment inventory restrictions. for instance, this itinerary is bookable for $500 on Priceline https://www.google.com/flights?gl=us...890*.USD.49890 AMEXTravel.com used to work as well, before the Expedia takeover. And Delta international reissues desk definitely has the power to force a segment into Z, if you can come up with a plausible enough excuse. For instance, ticketed segment1 in Z via DL.com and call in to add segment2, also in Z and say “that’s weird, i must be holding the last Z seat already on segment 1, so can you manually force it to Z.” the purpose of my thread is not to hear the rule, rather to hear the hacks, like above. you know, something actually useful. |
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