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dcraigen Nov 13, 2018 3:30 pm

CPAP Machine
 
Re. Delta Flight # 142, Airbus 330-300, business class, Seattle to Amsterdam-
Am I allowed to bring a CPAP Machine on board in my carry on?
Will I have access to 110V power at my seat?
How would I obtain distilled water on board for my CPAP?
Thanks

HWGeeks Nov 13, 2018 3:39 pm

Yes.
Yes provided the plane has a port by your seat.
Bring it with you my mom does.

BenA Nov 13, 2018 3:43 pm

You can bring your CPAP as a carry on device, but are required to provide your own battery power source. It must be on this approved devices list: https://www.delta.com/us/en/accessib...ces-medication

The aircraft will likely have 110V power outlets, but Delta explicitly says they are not for medical devices- partly because they are not designed to power motors, and partly because they don’t want liability if they stop working or are inoperable during the flight. You will need to bring your own distilled water if bottled/tap is insufficient - this would become a TSA exception you would request for medical purposes.

Many will report that they surreptitiously (or openly) power their CPAP from the aircraft anyway, and this may be something the flight crew permits on your flight. By the text of the rules, however, powering it for 150% of the flight duration is your responsibility.


Gig103 Nov 13, 2018 4:10 pm

Letter of the law, Ben has covered it. But I don't tell the airlines (including Delta) I'm bringing it because I'm okay with taking the risk of AC power and am not interested in buying and transporting batteries. I figure that if I tell them ahead of time I'll be on some special needs list and will revive scrutiny and possibly be denied using AC.

​​​But I flew an A330 and 767 with my CPAP in business class and nobody questioned me using the AC Power. In fact, only JAL even checked my unit was approved (it is).
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Regarding the mention of distilled water - the AC plugs are not rated for enough current to run the heated humidifiers. Don't count on those.

samwise6222 Nov 13, 2018 4:22 pm

FYI - American Airlines specifically allows you to use the power outlet if it's available:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...01ebd1d503.png

DavidDTW Nov 13, 2018 5:00 pm

TSA allows a bottle of frozen water thru security. You could try freezing the distilled water to get past TSA.

I just didn't want to haul my CPAP halfway around the world, so went without it for a couple of weeks.

flyerCO Nov 13, 2018 5:10 pm


Originally Posted by DavidDTW (Post 30426799)
TSA allows a bottle of frozen water thru security. You could try freezing the distilled water to get past TSA.

I just didn't want to haul my CPAP halfway around the world, so went without it for a couple of weeks.

No need since needed for medical device reasons.

Often1 Nov 13, 2018 6:18 pm

The issue with the AC power is simply that you won't have the use of the machine if you don't have batteries and there isn't enough power or the power is out at your seat. DL has no liability because it's you breaking the rules. The question to you is whether you are OK with it if you don't have the use of the machine for the duration of the flight.

Bowgie Nov 13, 2018 6:59 pm

BenA is correct
 

Originally Posted by dcraigen (Post 30426505)
Re. Delta Flight # 142, Airbus 330-300, business class, Seattle to Amsterdam-
Am I allowed to bring a CPAP Machine on board in my carry on?
Will I have access to 110V power at my seat?
How would I obtain distilled water on board for my CPAP?

BenA's answer is definitive.

Your question about distilled water tells me the OP is not using a travel CPAP. While not as nice as cpap's for home use, a travel CPAP like the HDM Z1 get the job done and allow me to go anywhere with only carry on. Haven't checked anything in years, and I am talking about international travel of three weeks or more.

It is risky to presume anything about anyone's need to use a CPAP on board an aircraft. I only use a travel model in a hotel room. For me, it would be a royal pain in the butt to use one in-flight, and I think I do OK in an elevated position. AIr France's recliners on their A380's are great for me, or I just elevate a full-flat seat a little. Seems to help..

The CPAP's that use water, like the home models, don't have to have water. In a pinch, one can use tap water or none at all. Worst case, one wakes up with a dry throat and month, which is typical for waterless travel models.

ralphs Nov 13, 2018 8:55 pm

The Resmed travel CPAP has a waterless humidity device which is pretty nifty for frequent travel and makes security easy. The actual device is small and makes packing much easier.

Downside is that one has to keep purchasing these HumidX cartridges at $10-15 a pop. They last about a month.

DragonSoul Nov 13, 2018 9:50 pm

Just out of curiosity, do those machines have dual voltage? I know most things do these days.

Bowgie Nov 13, 2018 11:52 pm


Originally Posted by DragonSoul (Post 30427513)
Just out of curiosity, do those machines have dual voltage? I know most things do these days.

It should be on the devices' spec sheet. I am not aware of a travel CPAP that does not work on both 220v and USA 120v voltage. Only a plug adapter to fit the foreign wall socket is needed.

tentseller Nov 14, 2018 12:24 am

The Z1 and Resmed 10 uses multi voltage (100-240V) powerbricks. I use the Z1 with the battery pack plus AC inflight. Battery powered only on Airlines that would not let me plug it in. (JL KE)

Don't count on TSA IQ will know that frozen distilled water is a solid.

I use the humidity cannister with my Z1 in flight, while not a Resmed with water chamber and heated hose it is better than nothing as airline air is dry enough as it is.

I use nasal gel as well when I am not running water humidification. It is a water based lubricant for dry nose.

Out of courtesy when I plan to sleep with my CPAP inflight I take a window seat.

​​​​​​I keep the FAA certificate for my machine in a ziploc bag taped to the powerbrick.

NoStressHere Nov 14, 2018 7:46 am

Long time user of CPAP and travel plenty include our 3 week RTW trip on 9 different airlines.

I ALWAYS take my CPAP with me. Never an issue. Goes in our carryon, and no longer use separate bag/container.

Also, figured out I could skip the water part which cuts down on the size issue. Just remove it. Try it at home first to see how you do.

As to distilled water - it is NOT REQUIRED, just better. When I was using it all the time, I would often just use tap water when in a hotel. The distilled cuts down on residue in the tank. Regular bottled water would be a step up and closer to distilled. The whole distilled thing is overkill.

As to travel vs home - I use the same full size when traveling and we only do carryon.

Power - most are dual voltage - hence the power brick - just need an adapter and NOT a converter.

As to power plugs - earlier posters are right that you are supposed to use your own power, but nobody would stop you. Though I use my CPAP 99.5% of the time at home in the 10+ years, I usually opt to not bother on the plane. Have done it a few times, but usually just do not bother, even on long flights with lay flat beds.

sdadept Nov 14, 2018 8:36 am


Originally Posted by dcraigen (Post 30426505)
Re. Delta Flight # 142, Airbus 330-300, business class, Seattle to Amsterdam-
Am I allowed to bring a CPAP Machine on board in my carry on?
Will I have access to 110V power at my seat?
How would I obtain distilled water on board for my CPAP?
Thanks

Try the Phillips Dreamstation GO with battery pack. The bonus is that if where you are staying has a power outage or any other problem (like no power being near the bed) then you are good for the night. Also, its really small and sturdy.


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