Aborted landing - records?

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Old Nov 10, 18, 5:41 pm
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Aborted landing - records?

I experienced my second ever aborted landing last night. It led me to wonder whether records are available online for the cause? It doesn't matter, I'm not seeking compensation I am just curious and interested.
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Old Nov 10, 18, 6:32 pm
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My recommendation would be to try and listen to the LIVEATC.net recording (if available) for your flight/airport of landing. Try and see if ATC directed the pilot to go around (they might even state the reason why like traffic not clearing, separation issues, ground traffic issues, etc). Or perhaps the pilot made the call for a missed approach due to winds, clouds, etc.

At my airline we keep internal records for go-arounds/missed approaches for engine cycle calculations and FOQA records. I don't know of any public database of this info. From a pilot's perspective it's all random. I have gone 8 months without a missed and then had 3 within one week. Keeps things interesting!
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Old Nov 10, 18, 6:49 pm
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I experienced my second ever aborted landing last night. It led me to wonder whether records are available online for the cause? It doesn't matter, I'm not seeking compensation I am just curious and interested.
That's scary!
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Old Nov 10, 18, 7:12 pm
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My wife and I were driving around Colorado Spring COS airport on a typical windy CO day. Was a cross wind for the runway. We watched a 737ish plane coming in for a landing (frontier or spirit I think) and then was climbing out. She was watching the flight on an app and saw it climbing then doing a circle. I was going to try and get her to try cos on my next business trip vs Den and drive down which is what we have done before. She said that must have been scary so I think it will be Den next time. She get anxious on turbulence and I sort of enjoy the ride. :-)
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Old Nov 10, 18, 7:13 pm
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I experienced my second ever aborted landing last night. It led me to wonder whether records are available online for the cause? It doesn't matter, I'm not seeking compensation I am just curious and interested.
Are you asking about only DL aborted landings?
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Old Nov 10, 18, 8:24 pm
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That's scary!
Unless you are scared of flying, there is nothing to be scared about a go-around.
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I thought this thread was a survey among FTers to determine who had the most in their lifetime of flying.

I've had two - my most recent being on a VS A340-600 coming into JFK last month without ~200-300 ft to go. Pilot did come on the PA shortly afterward and let us know the go-around was due to traffic in front of us not clearing the runway. My first aborted landing was on a flight test; I was sitting in the jump seat. We were landing overweight (planned) but were coming in high and despite the long runway, the pilots decided a go-around was the better option to reshoot the approach.
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Old Nov 10, 18, 8:50 pm
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I thought this thread was a survey among FTers to determine who had the most in their lifetime of flying.
there’s a 2008 thread in TravelBuzz that currently has ~240 posts

here’s mine
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This appears to be one of those questions where the correct answer has little practical value, except for - as the OP states - curiosity value. Of course you could review every flight and analyze the ground tracks one at a time to come up with an answer. That's a lot of work.

Maybe someone will respond here that such a public record really does exist, and point out the link, CFR, regulation, or other documentation that establishes it. However without such actual proof, all we will get is a lot of replies like, "Here's what I think it should be...." or "This is my opinion..." or "I overheard a pilot talking to a gate agent a couple years ago about ..." and so on. And if this is like any of the previous threads on this same topic, we will have replies explaining the subtle differences between what is a "go-around" vs, an "aborted landing" vs. "missed approach" vs. "diversion". etc. Finally, there will be many helpful posts describing how "I was on a flight years ago from AAA to BBB, and we had a missed landing, too" FWIW.
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Old Nov 10, 18, 8:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Allan38103 View Post
This appears to be one of those questions where the correct answer has little practical value, except for - as the OP states - curiosity value. Of course you could review every flight and analyze the ground tracks one at a time to come up with an answer. That's a lot of work.

Maybe someone will respond here that such a public record really does exist, and point out the link, CFR, regulation, or other documentation that establishes it. However without any actual proof, all we will get is a lot of replies like,"Here's what I think it should be...." or "This is my opinion..." or "I overheard a pilot talking to a gate agent about ..." and so on. And if this is like any of the previous threads on this same topic, we will have replies explaining the subtle differences between what is a "go-around" vs, an"aborted landing" vs. "missed approach" vs "diversion". etc. Finally, there will be many helpful posts describing "I was on a flight years ago from AAA to BBB, and we had a missed landing, too" FWIW.
As opposed to your very helpful post!

I think the OP was asking if official records exist, to determine how often this happens, etc. I am also curious about that.
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Old Nov 10, 18, 9:33 pm
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no, I really am just curious for my own sake of the details, if recorded. Since nearly 100% of my flights, and 100% of my aborts have been on Delta, and I posted on the DL board, I'm asking about Delta specifically. There is very little practical value, except that if there turned out to be a positive answer, it might have been useful to other curious people in the future. The suggestion of liveatc.net appears to be a useful one that I will pursue . I am sure that someone told a tower somewhere that we had aborted.

I have my own theories about the reason, and I was not surprised when I heard the engines spool back up. The pilot even gave a hurried, but not very specific reason "wind gusts". I don't really care how often it happens. Flight was DL1554 LAX-ATL on November 9. Wheels touched ground, then we ascended slightly, then about 1 or 2 seconds after touching, I heard the engines spool up. I was seated next to a jumpseated FA - she maintained a very professional and calm demeanor, but I detected that it made her more nervous than it did me.

Interestingly enough, the flight tracking apps all said we had landed and were taxiing while we were climbing out and going around.
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Wrong forum?
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Old Nov 10, 18, 11:10 pm
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Wrong forum?
No. The OP in the preceding post made his case as to why this was relevant to Delta. So. not a wrong forum and it will not be moved to TravelBuzz
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Old Nov 10, 18, 11:31 pm
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Originally Posted by ATOBTTR View Post
I thought this thread was a survey among FTers to determine who had the most in their lifetime of flying.

I've had two - my most recent being on a VS A340-600 coming into JFK last month without ~200-300 ft to go. Pilot did come on the PA shortly afterward and let us know the go-around was due to traffic in front of us not clearing the runway. My first aborted landing was on a flight test; I was sitting in the jump seat. We were landing overweight (planned) but were coming in high and despite the long runway, the pilots decided a go-around was the better option to reshoot the approach.
My only one was a couple of months ago on B6 at SFO at about 1000 feet, and the pilot said just about the same thing about traffic. Later I listed to the ATC recordings and they told ATC that it was because they were coming in too high.
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Old Nov 10, 18, 11:50 pm
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Originally Posted by MarkP24 View Post
That's scary!
Why? It's a routine maneuver for pilots and is usually caused for the most mundane reasons - most often the pilots in front are slow to clear the runway.
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