Your Business Travel Stats Deserve A Shout-Out
Oct 3, 2018, 9:35 am
#1
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Your Business Travel Stats Deserve A Shout-Out
Anyone else get that email? The stats don't seem especially accurate for me. They save I've flown 83k miles this year, which is substantially more than I have flown. It's substantially more than my MQMs (with rollover included) as well. The other stats, for top destinations and my homebase (MSP) are right, but I doubt the percentage is right if they had the right number of miles for me.
Oct 3, 2018, 9:45 am
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These emails are a joke - not sure what the value of these sorts of emails are.
Mine are also way off - it says I've flown 294,269 miles this year. Real butt-in-seat miles on DL metal are around 200K, a bit less if you're only looking at business travel. No idea how they end up with 294K. Maybe it's going back 1 calendar year and not YTD? Even then it seems a tiny bit off.
Most popular destinations seem about right..ish.
Mine are also way off - it says I've flown 294,269 miles this year. Real butt-in-seat miles on DL metal are around 200K, a bit less if you're only looking at business travel. No idea how they end up with 294K. Maybe it's going back 1 calendar year and not YTD? Even then it seems a tiny bit off.
Most popular destinations seem about right..ish.
Oct 3, 2018, 12:33 pm
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I know that my stats that they quoted in the e-mail are incorrect. E-mail stated that I have 94,000 miles this year and the skymiles tracker shows only 47,000 miles )which seems correct to me as I scaled my travel back this year).
I will gladly take the 94,000 as my skymiles mileage if they will put it into the account.
I will gladly take the 94,000 as my skymiles mileage if they will put it into the account.
Oct 3, 2018, 1:39 pm
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AA did that sort of thing last year, but they did it via the mail
It showed my standing among other elites and included new million miler tags based on how many millions you had traveled.
It also included the countries I had visited the most.. (well that was way off)
It showed my standing among other elites and included new million miler tags based on how many millions you had traveled.
It also included the countries I had visited the most.. (well that was way off)
Oct 3, 2018, 2:36 pm
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I'm sure it works on some people.
Oct 3, 2018, 8:27 pm
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Oct 3, 2018, 8:36 pm
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My problem is I had several IROPs this year (actually quite many than prior years), in which they routed me all over the country but they only gave me miles for the original ticketed flights. My butt-in-seat back-pain butt-pain miles far exceeded my credited miles... For a west coast guy, I've seen a lot of Atlanta and Minni this year... I am also a top 5% according to this email but they don't treat me like a top 5%er.
Oct 3, 2018, 8:44 pm
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My problem is I had several IROPs this year (actually quite many than prior years), in which they routed me all over the country but they only gave me miles for the original ticketed flights. My butt-in-seat back-pain butt-pain miles far exceeded my credited miles... For a west coast guy, I've seen a lot of Atlanta and Minni this year... I am also a top 5% according to this email but they don't treat me like a top 5%er.
My understanding is that this shouldn't have happened in that one must specifically request ORC. Otherwise you get credit for the flights you actually flew. Once this worked to my advantage and when I requested credit for missing segments, I was very clear to say that I didn't want ORC. It wasn't a problem.
Oct 3, 2018, 9:09 pm
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My understanding is that this shouldn't have happened in that one must specifically request ORC. Otherwise you get credit for the flights you actually flew. Once this worked to my advantage and when I requested credit for missing segments, I was very clear to say that I didn't want ORC. It wasn't a problem.
Oct 3, 2018, 10:45 pm
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So I thought as well. The automatic auditing will catch it and revert back. I even talked to SkyPesos agents via Diamond desk and they told me on IROP or non-volunteered change, you only get miles for the ticketed flight... Next time, I am gonna force them to give me SLC or MSP, instead of going through ATL or DTW.
NO, in my case it was an IROPs rebooking and I clearly could have had ORC if desired. Also, AFAIK doing a SDC/SDS onto a longer itinerary permits earning more than ORC, while taking a longer routing due to a compensated VDB (hence voluntary) doesn't give the choice (but I've also heard of FTers negotiating VDBs with crazy rebookings for the additional miles, just as some FTers advocate using SDC to get more MQMs). In addition, I've seen reports of other airlines refusing to give ORC for partner itineraries/reroutings. Of course the SDC/SDS onto the longer itinerary should be considered voluntary too, just as a VDB is voluntary, so I'm confused at this point about what is truly the criterion.
Oct 4, 2018, 2:22 pm
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Yeah mine is a mixed bag
Off by about 20k miles (has me down for 102k which is accurate for my overall year BIS but only about 85k has been on DL). It does have me as top 5% for RDU which I can easily believe at 85k.
It's accurate on the first 2 "most frequent" with New York and SFO but the third as AMS is bizarre since I've only flown ex-AMS once and all my other Europe travel has been O&D to other destinations with a CDG connection
Off by about 20k miles (has me down for 102k which is accurate for my overall year BIS but only about 85k has been on DL). It does have me as top 5% for RDU which I can easily believe at 85k.
It's accurate on the first 2 "most frequent" with New York and SFO but the third as AMS is bizarre since I've only flown ex-AMS once and all my other Europe travel has been O&D to other destinations with a CDG connection