DL to launch BOS-LIS
Sep 29, 2018, 12:10 pm
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DL to launch BOS-LIS
This was a rumor that first surfaced last week and is now confirmed. Delta BOS-LIS on 757-200* has been loaded and is bookable. Seasonally from May 23rd:
DL124 BOS 21:45—09:15 LIS
DL125 LIS 10:45—13:15 BOS (return starts the 24th).
*They will be using a non-D1 configured 757 with domestic F seats sold as Premium Select.
Pretty impressive how DL is growing BOS internationally. LIS will join DUB, AMS, CDG & LHR. Some suspect that as DL gains the current gates WN uses in A next year there will be more TATL growth to supplement JFK. ATH is widely being talked about.
DL124 BOS 21:45—09:15 LIS
DL125 LIS 10:45—13:15 BOS (return starts the 24th).
*They will be using a non-D1 configured 757 with domestic F seats sold as Premium Select.
Pretty impressive how DL is growing BOS internationally. LIS will join DUB, AMS, CDG & LHR. Some suspect that as DL gains the current gates WN uses in A next year there will be more TATL growth to supplement JFK. ATH is widely being talked about.
Sep 29, 2018, 12:31 pm
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Wow, I'm really glad to see DL is trying these new routes. And it adds to the relatively small list of SkyTeam ways to get to LIS.
A while back, I think I recall Ed Bastian mentioning they wanted to get the entire Terminal A at BOS back. It would be nice, because the upper A gates get very busy in the evening IME.
A while back, I think I recall Ed Bastian mentioning they wanted to get the entire Terminal A at BOS back. It would be nice, because the upper A gates get very busy in the evening IME.
Sep 29, 2018, 2:23 pm
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Sep 29, 2018, 7:11 pm
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Their selection of a 75H or 75G (ETOPS, domestic F) among just 20 in the fleet suggests they don't think they would find people willing to pay for lie-flats. That, or they think they have uniformly higher yielding routes for 75S and 767s.
Sep 30, 2018, 2:41 am
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Sep 30, 2018, 9:43 am
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It definitely beats backtracking from CDG or AMS if one wants to fly a W type product or avoid Air Europa from the US northeast. Less pitch but more width than the 350 PE. Given the Portuguese community in metro Boston, it probably fills a niche although I could see it eventually going to 4x/week (1356 eastbound) at certain times of the year.
Sep 30, 2018, 10:37 am
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I actually think this is both good and bad. Good in that there is another TATL option is on the table and that DL seems to be getting traction on travel to LIS. It concerns me though that they are using a non-D1 plane on this route. If this proves successful we could see even more erosion of D1 in thin routes while fare remain at D1 rates. I'm not suggesting this WILL happen, but I think this is going to be a test of what the market will bear and represents DL's decision to compete with the European ULCCs offering TATL service by offering the same hard product.
Sep 30, 2018, 10:50 am
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I actually think this is both good and bad. Good in that there is another TATL option is on the table and that DL seems to be getting traction on travel to LIS. It concerns me though that they are using a non-D1 plane on this route. If this proves successful we could see even more erosion of D1 in thin routes while fare remain at D1 rates. I'm not suggesting this WILL happen, but I think this is going to be a test of what the market will bear and represents DL's decision to compete with the European ULCCs offering TATL service by offering the same hard product.
and FWIW every time I have looked the fares were not what i would suspect for D1.
Sep 30, 2018, 10:56 am
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My impression is that LIS is generally a low yielding route, although with the Portuguese community in the BOS area and a domestic 757 available, it's an interesting experiment. The schedule looks reasonable.
OTOH I don't want to connect in BOS for TATL flights as the flight times are too short to get a good night's sleep.
OTOH I don't want to connect in BOS for TATL flights as the flight times are too short to get a good night's sleep.
Sep 30, 2018, 6:43 pm
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Sep 30, 2018, 7:54 pm
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Sep 30, 2018, 9:42 pm
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Cases like this are exactly why I don't understand why my fellow American's are getting raked over the coals on domestic airfare, obviously due to lack of competition, and no one cares.
I can fly in "domestic F" on a 7 hour flight for $800 [this BOS-LIS PE fare], and I recently booked a trip DTW-SFO in coach, 1 month out, for $1200.
I can fly SFO to FRA for $550 with a bag and overhead bin access, and it costs me $1400 to go to CHS.
Frustrating, our lack of competition.
I can fly in "domestic F" on a 7 hour flight for $800 [this BOS-LIS PE fare], and I recently booked a trip DTW-SFO in coach, 1 month out, for $1200.
I can fly SFO to FRA for $550 with a bag and overhead bin access, and it costs me $1400 to go to CHS.
Frustrating, our lack of competition.
Oct 1, 2018, 9:02 pm
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I checked the fares and they are astronautically out of sight for the service offered.
Just who is going to fork out these fares compared to the competition?
Just who is going to fork out these fares compared to the competition?