DL Sky Club - Remaining NWA Lifetime Members
Dec 4, 2018, 11:17 am
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Dec 4, 2018, 11:24 am
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Former NW membership T&C's from archive.org --
"Use of all WorldClubs facilities is subject to the rules and conditions set by Northwest Airlines, which are subject to change at any time. Northwest Airlines reserves the right to restrict, alter or modify the fees, benefits, services, hours of operation, policies and locations at any time with or without written notice to its members."
There were no separate set of T&C's for lifetime memberships. Note that NW used to let members who were not flying at all to access the clubs (I recall people using the pre-security DCA and SFO clubs without flying). Shouldn't these folks be arguing for those rules??
"Use of all WorldClubs facilities is subject to the rules and conditions set by Northwest Airlines, which are subject to change at any time. Northwest Airlines reserves the right to restrict, alter or modify the fees, benefits, services, hours of operation, policies and locations at any time with or without written notice to its members."
There were no separate set of T&C's for lifetime memberships. Note that NW used to let members who were not flying at all to access the clubs (I recall people using the pre-security DCA and SFO clubs without flying). Shouldn't these folks be arguing for those rules??
Dec 4, 2018, 12:44 pm
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Former NW membership T&C's from archive.org --
"Use of all WorldClubs facilities is subject to the rules and conditions set by Northwest Airlines, which are subject to change at any time. Northwest Airlines reserves the right to restrict, alter or modify the fees, benefits, services, hours of operation, policies and locations at any time with or without written notice to its members."
There were no separate set of T&C's for lifetime memberships. Note that NW used to let members who were not flying at all to access the clubs (I recall people using the pre-security DCA and SFO clubs without flying). Shouldn't these folks be arguing for those rules??
"Use of all WorldClubs facilities is subject to the rules and conditions set by Northwest Airlines, which are subject to change at any time. Northwest Airlines reserves the right to restrict, alter or modify the fees, benefits, services, hours of operation, policies and locations at any time with or without written notice to its members."
There were no separate set of T&C's for lifetime memberships. Note that NW used to let members who were not flying at all to access the clubs (I recall people using the pre-security DCA and SFO clubs without flying). Shouldn't these folks be arguing for those rules??
Dec 4, 2018, 5:30 pm
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Dec 4, 2018, 5:31 pm
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I really don't think there is any legal case to be made. If someone can make a good case in the court of public opinion, and DL risks a PR problem, than perhaps there will be some action, but I don't see that happening on this issue. Furthermore, you bought a lifetime membership with a company that no longer exists. That DL continues to extend this benefit to customers of NWA is a courtesy that not all airlines have done.
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Dec 4, 2018, 6:36 pm
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Ask any Flying Colonel how well he is faring with his Lifetime club membership.
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Dec 4, 2018, 6:38 pm
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I really don't think there is any legal case to be made. If someone can make a good case in the court of public opinion, and DL risks a PR problem, than perhaps there will be some action, but I don't see that happening on this issue. Furthermore, you bought a lifetime membership with a company that no longer exists. That DL continues to extend this benefit to customers of NWA is a courtesy that not all airlines have done.
Dec 6, 2018, 12:08 am
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Here's the thing, old-timey jet-setters waving their canes about changes in the T&C's of their lifetime memberships is not going to make a ripple in the court of public opinion. Now, if DL were to abandon you overnight in your wheelchair after a flight cancellation, that might make a difference.
https://www.google.com/m?q=airline+m...assenger+crawl
Jan 6, 2019, 8:46 am
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Looks like the know it all haters were incorrect. DL did not want to risk the PR problem with the "old timey jet setters" (hilarious way to describe me... a 40-something LT SC member).
LT members are good to go for 2019:
https://www.delta.com/us/en/delta-sky-club/access
"Lifetime members may continue to access the Club with same-day ticketed air travel on any airline."
LT members are good to go for 2019:
https://www.delta.com/us/en/delta-sky-club/access
"Lifetime members may continue to access the Club with same-day ticketed air travel on any airline."
Jan 6, 2019, 9:26 am
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Jan 6, 2019, 9:39 am
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Jan 6, 2019, 3:14 pm
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Looks like the know it all haters were incorrect. DL did not want to risk the PR problem with the "old timey jet setters" (hilarious way to describe me... a 40-something LT SC member).
LT members are good to go for 2019:
https://www.delta.com/us/en/delta-sky-club/access
"Lifetime members may continue to access the Club with same-day ticketed air travel on any airline."
LT members are good to go for 2019:
https://www.delta.com/us/en/delta-sky-club/access
"Lifetime members may continue to access the Club with same-day ticketed air travel on any airline."
This link should be in a wiki for easy reference and also posted in a wiki in the other thread on general SC membership changes. I'm sure there will be a lot of confused dragons on this one.
Jan 14, 2019, 10:06 am
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Excellent news for lifetime sky club members
Just received this email. It’s the first part of it it makes me happy – regarding admittance to the clubs were not on a Delta ticket.
In November 2018, we announced that customers accessing a Delta Sky Club must be flying on a same-day ticketed Delta or Delta partner flight to enter the Club, effective January 1, 2019. We have made an exception to this policy for our Lifetime Members. You and your guests may continue to access the Club when traveling on same-day ticketed travel on any airline. As a reminder, eligible guests include up to two traveling companions OR a spouse/partner and children under 21.
Also effective January 1, 2019, Delta Sky Club Memberships (including Lifetime Memberships) no longer include access to Air France, KLM Crown and Virgin Australia lounges. Members, however, can access partner lounges in the following scenarios:
In November 2018, we announced that customers accessing a Delta Sky Club must be flying on a same-day ticketed Delta or Delta partner flight to enter the Club, effective January 1, 2019. We have made an exception to this policy for our Lifetime Members. You and your guests may continue to access the Club when traveling on same-day ticketed travel on any airline. As a reminder, eligible guests include up to two traveling companions OR a spouse/partner and children under 21.
Also effective January 1, 2019, Delta Sky Club Memberships (including Lifetime Memberships) no longer include access to Air France, KLM Crown and Virgin Australia lounges. Members, however, can access partner lounges in the following scenarios:
- Diamond, Platinum or Gold Medallion® Members traveling on a partner international flight or partner domestic flight connecting to/from a same-day international flight
- Delta One® passengers, upon departure or connecting flight
Jan 14, 2019, 10:12 am
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Just received this email. It’s the first part of it it makes me happy – regarding admittance to the clubs were not on a Delta ticket.
In November 2018, we announced that customers accessing a Delta Sky Club must be flying on a same-day ticketed Delta or Delta partner flight to enter the Club, effective January 1, 2019. We have made an exception to this policy for our Lifetime Members. You and your guests may continue to access the Club when traveling on same-day ticketed travel on any airline. As a reminder, eligible guests include up to two traveling companions OR a spouse/partner and children under 21.
Also effective January 1, 2019, Delta Sky Club Memberships (including Lifetime Memberships) no longer include access to Air France, KLM Crown and Virgin Australia lounges. Members, however, can access partner lounges in the following scenarios:
In November 2018, we announced that customers accessing a Delta Sky Club must be flying on a same-day ticketed Delta or Delta partner flight to enter the Club, effective January 1, 2019. We have made an exception to this policy for our Lifetime Members. You and your guests may continue to access the Club when traveling on same-day ticketed travel on any airline. As a reminder, eligible guests include up to two traveling companions OR a spouse/partner and children under 21.
Also effective January 1, 2019, Delta Sky Club Memberships (including Lifetime Memberships) no longer include access to Air France, KLM Crown and Virgin Australia lounges. Members, however, can access partner lounges in the following scenarios:
- Diamond, Platinum or Gold Medallion® Members traveling on a partner international flight or partner domestic flight connecting to/from a same-day international flight
- Delta One® passengers, upon departure or connecting flight
Jan 14, 2019, 10:29 am
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+1. Excellent news and an amazing investment, since I expensed my LIfetime Membership before shutting down a business line at a previous job.