Sep 16, 2018, 8:50 am
Last edit by: LoganFlyer
Status as of 18 Apr 2024
A220-100 cabin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhcRYQoPyZg
A220-300 cabin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkZFJqt9ons
Initial route list adapted from the Delta news hub:
Market (In-Service)
A220-100 cabin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhcRYQoPyZg
A220-300 cabin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkZFJqt9ons
Initial route list adapted from the Delta news hub:
Market (In-Service)
- New York-LGA to Boston-BOS...Feb 7 2019.
- New York-LGA to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW...Feb 7 2019.
- Detroit-DTW to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW...Feb 14 2019.
- New York-LGA to Houston-IAH...April 2019.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW...May 2019.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to San Jose-SJC...May 2019
- San Jose-SJC to Seattle-SEA...June 8 2019 (2/6 flights daily).
- Minneapolis/St. Paul-MSP to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW...June 2019.
- Houston-IAH to Detroit-DTW & Minneapolis/St. Paul-MSP...July 2019.
- Houston-IAH to Salt Lake City-SLC...July 2019.
- New York-JFK to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW...Aug 2019.
First scheduled A220-300 routes.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to Houston-IAH...started Nov 17 2020.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to San Jose-SJC...started Nov 21 2020.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to Sacramento-SMF...started Nov 25 2020.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to Austin-AUS...started Nov 27 2020.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to Denver-DEN...started Dec 18 2020.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to Dallas-DFW...started Dec 26 2020.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to Santa Ana-SNA...started Jan 4 2021.
- Salt Lake City-SLC to Nashville-BNA...started Jan 7 2021.
For those interested in the original DL order and subsequent news, here is the original thread: Delta Orders 75 CS100's.
A220-100 orders:
MSN #...Fleet ...Registration #...Delivery info and notes:
50020 8101 N101DU Delivered YMX>ATL Oct 26 2018. Entered service Feb 14 2019 DFW>DTW. ViaSat IFC.
50021 8102 N102DU Delivered YMX>ATL Dec 18 2018. Entered service Feb 7 2019 LGA>BOS. ViaSat IFC (prototype).
50022 8103 N103DU Delivered YMX>ATL Dec 8 2018. Entered service Feb 7 2019 DFW>LGA. Parked @ SBD 1/4/24. ViaSat IFC.
50023 8104 N104DU Delivered YMX>ATL Dec 31 2018. Entered service Feb 7 2019 LGA>DFW.
50024 8105 N105DU Delivered YMX>ATL Feb 16 2019. Entered service Feb 23 2019 LGA>DFW. Parked @ SBD 12/4/23. ViaSat IFC.
50025 8106 N106DU Delivered YMX>ATL Feb 22 2019. Entered service March 9 2019 DTW>DFW. Parked @ SBD 1/9/24. ViaSat IFC.
50026 8107 N107DU Delivered YMX>ATL March 1 2019. Entered service April 7 2019 DFW>LGA. Parked @ SBD 11/16/23. ViaSat IFC.
50027 8108 N108DQ Delivered YMX>ATL April 26 2019. Entered service May 3 2019 DFW>DTW.
50028 8109 N109DU Delivered YMX>ATL March 13 2019. Entered service March 22 2019 DFW>DTW.
50029 8110 N110DU Delivered YMX>ATL March 29 2019. Entered service April 10 2019 DTW>DFW. Parked @ SBD 1/17/24. ViaSat IFC.
50030 8111 N111NG Delivered YMX>ATL June 6 2019. Entered service June 14 2019 DTW>DFW.
50031 8112 N112DU Delivered YMX>ATL April 18 2019. Entered service May 1 2019 DFW>SLC.
50032 8113 N113DQ Delivered YMX>ATL May 20 2019. Entered service May 25 2019 DFW>SLC.
50033 8114 N114DU Delivered YMX>ATL May 30 2019. Entered service June 7 2019 DTW>DFW.
50034 8115 N115DU Delivered YMX>ATL June 18 2019. Entered service June 27 2019 DTW>DFW.
50035 8116 N116DU Delivered YMX>ATL June 21 2019. Entered service June 28 2019 MSP>DFW.
50036 8117 N117DU Delivered YMX>ATL June 25 2019. Entered service July 5 2019 DFW>SLC.
50037 8118 N118DU Delivered YMX>ATL June 28 2019. Entered service July 11 2019 SLC>DFW.
50038 8119 N119DU Delivered YMX>ATL July 12 2019. Entered service July 22 2019 DFW>LGA.
50039 8120 N120DU Delivered YMX>ATL July 25 2019. Entered service Aug 1 2019 DTW>EWR.
50040 8121 N121DU Delivered YMX>ATL Aug 9 2019. Entered service Aug 20 2019 DFW>DTW.
50041 8122 N122DU Delivered YMX>ATL Aug 29 2019. Entered service Sept 12 2019 DFW>DTW
50042 8123 N123DQ Delivered YMX>ATL Sept 17 2019. Entered service Sept 27 2019 DTW>IAH.
50043 8124 N124DU Delivered YMX>ATL Sept 23 2019. Entered service Oct 2 2019 MEM>DFW.
50044 8125 N125DU Delivered YMX>ATL Sept 30 2019. Entered service Oct 9 2019 LGA>IAH.
50045 8126 N126DU Delivered YMX>ATL Oct 10 2019. Entered service Oct 21 2019 SLC>SFO.
50046 8127 N127DU Delivered YMX>ATL Oct 30 2019. Entered service Nov 14 2019 SEA>DEN.
50047 8128 N128DU Delivered YMX>ATL Nov 21 2019. Entered service Nov 29 2019 SEA>DEN.
50048 8129 N129DU Delivered YMX>ATL Jan 24 2020. Entered service Feb 3 2020 LGA>BOS.
50049 8130 N130DU Delivered YMX>ATL Feb 28 2020. Entered service March 11 2020 MSP>DFW.
50050 8131 N131DU Delivered YMX>ATL March 6 2020. Entered service March 16 2020 DTW>DFW.
50051 8132 N132DU Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 22 2020. Entered service Nov 19 2020 MSP>LGA. Parked @ SBD 1/29/24. ViaSat IFC.
50052 8133 N133DU Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 23 2020. Entered service Nov 20 2020 MSP>BNA.
50053 8134 N134DU Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 29 2020. Entered service Dec 18 2020 MSP>BNA.
50054 8135 N135DQ Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 30 2020. Entered service Dec 18 2020 MSP>JFK. Parked @ SBD 1/8/24. ViaSat IFC.
50055 8136 N136DQ Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 31 2020. Entered service Jan 14 2021 MSP>LGA.
50056 8137 N137DU Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 31 2020. Entered service Jan 16 2021 MSP>LAX.
50057 8138 N138DU Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 24 2020. Entered service Dec 19 2020 MSP>LGA. Parked @ SBD 9/3/23. ViaSat IFC.
50058 8139 N139DU Delivered YMX>MSP Feb 5 2021. Entered service March 17 2020 MSP>BOS.
50059 8140 N140DU Delivered YMX>MSP Jan 29 2021. Entered service Feb 13 2021 MSP>AUS. Parked @ SBD 10/30/23. ViaSat IFC.
50061 8141 N141DU Delivered YMX>MSP March 9 2021. Entered service April 2 2021 MSP>LGA. Parked @ SBD 10/18/23. ViaSat IFC.
50060 8142 N142DU Delivered YMX>MSP Feb 18 2022. Entered service March 1 2022 MSP>ORD.
50063 8143 N143DU Delivered YMX>MSP Feb 1 2022. Entered service Feb 10 2022 MSP>JFK.
50064 8144 N144DU Delivered YMX>MSP March 8 2022. Entered service March 17 2022 BOS>CVG. Parked @ SBD 9/14/23. ViaSat IFC.
50065 8145 N145DQ Delivered YMX>MSP April 1 2022. Entered service April 12 2022 MSP>STL.
A220-300 orders
MSN #...Fleet #...Registration #...Delivery info and notes: ViaSat IFC installation in progress - 20/24
55069 8301 N301DU…Delivered BFM>MSP March 18 2021…Entered service April 1 2021 MSP>AUS. ViaSat IFC.
55070 8302 N302DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Oct 22 2020….Entered service Nov 17 2020 SLC>IAH. ViaSat IFC.
55075 8303 N303DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Oct 23 2020…Entered service Dec 8 2020 SLC>SMF. ViaSat IFC.
55080 8304 N304DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Oct 26 2020…Entered service Jan 7 2021 SLC>SNA. ViaSat IFC.
55084 8305 N305DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Oct 30 2020…Entered service Jan 7 2021 SLC>AUS. ViaSat IFC.
55085 8306 N306DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Dec 7 2020…Entered service Jan 15 2021 ATL>SEA. ViaSat IFC.
55096 8307 N307DU…Delivered BFM>MSP Feb 1 2021…Entered service Feb 19 2021 MSP>AUS. ViaSat IFC.
55101 8308 N308DU…Delivered BFM>MSP April 14 2021…Entered service May 1 2021 MSP>BOS. ViaSat IFC.
55107 8309 N309DU…Delivered BFM>MSP June 10 2021…Entered service June 26 2021 MSP>LGA. ViaSat IFC.
55142 8310 N310DU…Delivered BFM>MSP Dec 16 2021… Entered service Dec 26 2021 MSP>LGA.
55153 8311 N311DU…Delivered BFM>MSP June 16 2022…Entered service June 26 2022 MSP>SNA.
55170 8312 N312DU…Delivered BFM>MSP Sept 30 2022…Entered service Oct 14 2022 SEA>SMF.
55175 8313 N313DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Nov 8 2022…Entered service Nov 24 2022 SLC>STL.
55192 8314 N314DU…Delivered BFM>MSP Feb 24 2023…Entered service March 15 2023 MSP>DFW. ViaSat IFC.
55195 8315 N315DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Dec 30 2022…Entered service Jan 22 2023 SLC>DEN. ViaSat IFC.
55207 8316 N316DU...Delivered BFM>MSP June 20 2023…Entered service July 8 2023 MSP>SAT. ViaSat IFC.
55212 8317 N317DU...Delivered BFM>MSP Aug 1 2023…Entered service Aug 11 2023 MSP>IAH. ViaSat IFC.
55220 8318 N318DU...Delivered BFM>MSP Sept 1 2023…Entered service Sept 13 2023 MSP>IAH. ViaSat IFC.
55228 8319 N319DU...Delivered BFM>MSP Oct 31 2023…Entered service Nov 10 2023 MSP>ORD. ViaSat IFC.
55237 8320 N320DU...Delivered BFM>MSP Nov 21 2023…Entered service Dec 2 2023 MSP>DFW. ViaSat IFC.
55256 8321 N321DU...Delivered YMX>MSP Dec 19 2023...Entered service Dec 29 2023 MSP>SJC. ViaSat IFC.
55266 8322 N322DU...Delivered BFM>MSP March 1 2024…Entered service March 10 2024 MSP>DFW. ViaSat IFC.
55259 8323 N323DU...Delivered YMX>MSP Dec 21 2023...Entered service Dec 30 2023 MSP>JFK. ViaSat IFC.
55261 8324 N324DU...Delivered YMX>MSP Dec 28 2023...Entered service Jan 7 2024 MSP>DFW. ViaSat IFC.
55272 8325 N325DU...Delivered YMX>MSP Apr 18 2024...In induction.
55xxx 8326 N326DU…2024 delivery.
55xxx 8327 N327DU…2024 delivery.
55xxx 8328 N328DU…2024 delivery.
55xxx 8329 N329DU…2024 delivery.
55xxx 8330 N330DU…2024 delivery.
Number of A223s being delivered per year as of 12/31/23:
2024 7
2025 8
2026 14
2027 & later 48
Final Total 86
Link to Master Thread
A220 Consolidated Discussion Thread
Feb 17, 2019, 8:02 am
#286
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 134
To complete my review series, I flew the A220 in Comfort+ on DL719 last Thursday from LGA to DFW. Not much to say here.
* I absolutely LOVE the 2x3 arrangement. Reminds me of the times I flew on American’s MD80 (an aircraft I love and whose termination saddens me, though I know it’s time is up).
* The Comfort+ seats are more-or-less the same as the seats in Main. They have the same feel.
* Legroom in Comfort+ is great, especially if you’re in Row 10. I think Row 10 is the best row in the entire interior, including First.
* Tray tables are the same as Main.
TL;DR: Don’t waste your money on the A220’s F seats unless you need the MQDs, need a sharper IFE display or really love food from SkyChefs. Definitely spend the extra on getting into Comfort+; it’s a great value.
* I absolutely LOVE the 2x3 arrangement. Reminds me of the times I flew on American’s MD80 (an aircraft I love and whose termination saddens me, though I know it’s time is up).
* The Comfort+ seats are more-or-less the same as the seats in Main. They have the same feel.
* Legroom in Comfort+ is great, especially if you’re in Row 10. I think Row 10 is the best row in the entire interior, including First.
* Tray tables are the same as Main.
TL;DR: Don’t waste your money on the A220’s F seats unless you need the MQDs, need a sharper IFE display or really love food from SkyChefs. Definitely spend the extra on getting into Comfort+; it’s a great value.
Feb 17, 2019, 9:25 am
#287
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: JFK/LGA
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Fair, but the writing was on the wall for the 717 in 2004 (Boeing formerly announced the end of the program in January 2005, but it was pretty clear their plans as early as 2003/2004).
The 717 is great for the operators that currently use them. There are not enough to go around, and it is clear the current operators will run them into the ground. So, if you don't already have them, you are not going to get them.
I agree that second-hand 737-700s are an option (although lack the passenger comfort benefits of the A220) - obviously trading capital expenditures with higher fuel costs. That said, Delta is probably one of the few majors that is willing to acquire old airframes in mass. I don't see AA or United going and buying a bunch of second-hand 737-700s to compete.
The A220 fills a nitch that needed to be filled - and it fills it with comfort. I'm very happy about it overall. I wish I flew more of the routes that it will cover.
The 717 is great for the operators that currently use them. There are not enough to go around, and it is clear the current operators will run them into the ground. So, if you don't already have them, you are not going to get them.
I agree that second-hand 737-700s are an option (although lack the passenger comfort benefits of the A220) - obviously trading capital expenditures with higher fuel costs. That said, Delta is probably one of the few majors that is willing to acquire old airframes in mass. I don't see AA or United going and buying a bunch of second-hand 737-700s to compete.
The A220 fills a nitch that needed to be filled - and it fills it with comfort. I'm very happy about it overall. I wish I flew more of the routes that it will cover.
Feb 17, 2019, 11:50 am
#288
Join Date: Feb 2017
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The 737-700s are a fair comparison to the A222 (~7-10% more capacity depending on configuration) but an A319 is tough to say it is in the same class as an A222. It has 15-20% more seats depending on the configuration.
737s and A319s will definitely go head to head against the A223. That said, the A223 has an inherent competitive advantage against the A320 and 737 family of aircraft given that it is the stretched variant, as opposed to the stub variant.
Obviously less relevant on short hops, but for any long-and-thin purpose (which UA does a lot with the A319), the A319 fuel burn per seat will be almost 40% worse than an A223 (the A319neo would be closer of course, but no one is buying those). It's just too much airframe for the capacity since it's designed to stretch to the A321 size.
Feb 18, 2019, 9:03 am
#289
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737s and A319s will definitely go head to head against the A223. That said, the A223 has an inherent competitive advantage against the A320 and 737 family of aircraft given that it is the stretched variant, as opposed to the stub variant.
Feb 18, 2019, 9:16 am
#290
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A222......????
Where do people keep getting this silly notion and speaking as if it's fact that the 1A11 is a stretch of the 1A10 airframe? Neither is a stretch or a shrink of anything. The 1A10 and 1A11 were designed side-by-side to address their respective business cases. The center fuse for the 1A11 is just longer, no plugs, no stretching.
Where do people keep getting this silly notion and speaking as if it's fact that the 1A11 is a stretch of the 1A10 airframe? Neither is a stretch or a shrink of anything. The 1A10 and 1A11 were designed side-by-side to address their respective business cases. The center fuse for the 1A11 is just longer, no plugs, no stretching.
And I'm not sure what technical definition you're using to define a "stretch" versus a "side by side design", but in my book (and for any practical purpose), they are the same family, and one is either a stretch or a shrink of the other (one could argue that the design base-case was actually a CS300 and the CS100 is a "shrink" and the hypothetical CS500 would be the "stretch"). They have the same wing, same tail, and same fuselage. A one slider that is literally advertising that they are the same darn plane from an operator's perspective (minus the capacity difference) does not somehow imply that they are not a shrink/stretch.
Feb 18, 2019, 9:25 am
#291
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Sorry, A221. Still getting used to the new Airbus naming convention.
And I'm not sure what technical definition you're using to define a "stretch" versus a "side by side design", but in my book (and for any practical purpose), they are the same family, and one is either a stretch or a shrink of the other (one could argue that the design base-case was actually a CS300 and the CS100 is a "shrink" and the hypothetical CS500 would be the "stretch"). They have the same wing, same tail, and same fuselage. A one slider that is literally advertising that they are the same darn plane from an operator's perspective (minus the capacity difference) does not somehow imply that they are not a shrink/stretch.
And I'm not sure what technical definition you're using to define a "stretch" versus a "side by side design", but in my book (and for any practical purpose), they are the same family, and one is either a stretch or a shrink of the other (one could argue that the design base-case was actually a CS300 and the CS100 is a "shrink" and the hypothetical CS500 would be the "stretch"). They have the same wing, same tail, and same fuselage. A one slider that is literally advertising that they are the same darn plane from an operator's perspective (minus the capacity difference) does not somehow imply that they are not a shrink/stretch.
Both the 1A10 and 1A11 were designed and engineered the same time side-by-side to be optimized for their intended uses. If the A220-500 (CS500) where to see the light of day, it would be a stretch of the 1A11 platform by placing plugs fore and aft.
As for the one slider, well, that is the only slide I can display without risk of a lawsuit. That one slider was take from a technical slide deck showing the differences in the mid fuse. Also, BBD has stated as much re: shink/stretch.
If you had been part of the orginal design team, you would know as such.
The models are not stretched or shrunken versions of each other, but were designed side by side, with only the center section being longer on the larger CS300 aircraft,” the manufacturer said.
Feb 18, 2019, 9:48 am
#292
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The technical definition of a stretch is where one base platform is modified to be longer/bigger than it's originally intended and engineered design.
Both the 1A10 and 1A11 were designed and engineered the same time side-by-side to be optimized for their intended uses. If the A220-500 (CS500) where to see the light of day, it would be a stretch of the 1A11 platform by placing plugs fore and aft.
As for the one slider, well, that is the only slide I can display without risk of a lawsuit. That one slider was take from a technical slide deck showing the differences in the mid fuse. Also, BBD has stated as much re: shink/stretch.
If you had been part of the orginal design team, you would know as such.
https://aviationvoice.com/bombardier...-201611241230/
Both the 1A10 and 1A11 were designed and engineered the same time side-by-side to be optimized for their intended uses. If the A220-500 (CS500) where to see the light of day, it would be a stretch of the 1A11 platform by placing plugs fore and aft.
As for the one slider, well, that is the only slide I can display without risk of a lawsuit. That one slider was take from a technical slide deck showing the differences in the mid fuse. Also, BBD has stated as much re: shink/stretch.
If you had been part of the orginal design team, you would know as such.
https://aviationvoice.com/bombardier...-201611241230/
That said, I do understand marginal analysis and tradeoffs, and according to the spec sheet...
- The wing is the same (as far as I know, it has no structural difference between the CS100 and CS300 - i.e., it is not strengthened on the CS300 vs CS100)
- The tail is the same
- The fuselage cross-section is the same
- The fuel capacity is the same
- The engines are the same (except uprated for the CS300)
Feb 18, 2019, 10:19 am
#293
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Feb 20, 2019, 12:14 pm
#294
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Well, adding another data point here, I was booked BOS-LGA on the A220 on February 17. Takeoff was aborted early on for some indication, back to the gate we went, and the thing went mechanical. Ending up with an A321 subbed in for the flight a couple of hours later.
Feb 21, 2019, 8:17 pm
#295
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 134
It seems that all of the A221's I've taken so far between LGA and DFW have had VPA issues. Three of them couldn't play the VPA at all; one of them started the audio part of the VPA, but not the video, though it worked after a restart.
Feb 21, 2019, 8:22 pm
#296
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Feb 22, 2019, 12:09 am
#297
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One of the LGA-BOS flights on Thursday returned to the gate and was swapped due to the delay lasting more than an hour.
So, how about that French Canadian quality? Or should I say... je ne sais qualité?
So, how about that French Canadian quality? Or should I say... je ne sais qualité?
Feb 22, 2019, 5:33 am
#298
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Feb 22, 2019, 6:44 am
#299
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Feb 22, 2019, 9:52 am
#300
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The next (6th) frame, N106DU, is scheduled to be delivered today:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n106du
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n106du