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Initial route list adapted from the Delta news hub:

Market (In-Service)
  • New York-LGA to Boston-BOS...Feb 7 2019.
  • New York-LGA to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW*...Feb 7 2019.
  • Detroit-DTW to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW**...Feb 14 2019.
  • New York-LGA to Houston-IAH*...April 2019.
  • Salt Lake City-SLC to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW...May 2019.
  • Salt Lake City-SLC to San Jose-SJC...May 2019
  • San Jose-SJC to Seattle-SEA...June 8 2019 (2/6 flights daily).
  • Minneapolis/St. Paul-MSP to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW...June 2019.
  • Houston-IAH to Detroit-DTW & Minneapolis/St. Paul-MSP...July 2019.
  • Houston-IAH to Salt Lake City-SLC*...July 2019.
  • New York-JFK to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW*...Aug 2019.
*Denotes route that will eventually be fully operated by A220.

For those interested in the original DL order and subsequent news, here is the original thread: Delta Orders 75 CS100's.

Aircraft deliveries and entry into service dates:


MSN 50020 8101 N101DU Delivered Oct 26 2018. Entered service Feb 14 2019 DFW>DTW.
MSN 50021 8102 N102DU Delivered Dec 18 2018. Entered service Feb 7 2019 LGA>BOS.
MSN 50022 8103 N103DU Delivered Dec 8 2018. Entered service Feb 7 2019 DFW>LGA.
MSN 50023 8104 N104DU Delivered Dec 31 2018. Entered service Feb 7 2019 LGA>DFW.
MSN 50024 8105 N105DU Delivered Feb 16 2019. Entered service Feb 23 2019 LGA>DFW.
MSN 50025 8106 N106DU Delivered Feb 22 2019. Entered service March 9 2019 DTW>DFW.
MSN 50026 8107 N107DU Delivered March 1 2019. Entered service April 7 2019 DFW>LGA.
MSN 50027 8108 N108DN On order.
MSN 50028 8109 N109DU Delivered March 13 2019. Entered service March 22 2019 DFW>DTW.
MSN 50029 8110 N110DU Delivered March 29 2019. Entered service April 9 2019 2019 DTW>DFW.
MSN 50030 8111 N111NG On order.
MSN 50031 8112 N112DU Delivered April 18 2019. Estimated to enter service late April or early May.
MSN 50032 8113 N113DX On order.
MSN 50033 8114 N114DU On order.
MSN 50034 8115 N115DU On order.
MSN 50035 8116 N116DU On order.
MSN 50036 8117 N117DU On order.
MSN 50037 8118 N118DU On order.
MSN 50038 8119 N119DU On order.
MSN 50039 8120 N120DU On order.
MSN 50040 8121 N121DU On order.
MSN 50041 8122 N122DU On order.
MSN 50042 8123 N123DQ On order.
MSN 50043 8124 N124DU On order.
MSN 50044 8125 N125DU On order.
MSN 50045 8126 N126DU On order.
MSN 50046 8127 N127DU On order.
MSN 50047 8128 N128DU On order.
MSN 50048 8129 N129DU On order.
MSN 50049 8130 N130DU On order.
MSN 50050 8131 N131DU On order.
MSN 50051 8132 N132DU On order.
MSN 50052 8133 N133DU On order.
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Old Feb 7, 19, 7:18 pm
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Took the inaugural DFW-LGA route on the BCS1, reg N104DU N103DU.
Boarding door floor panel still says "C Series", which made me lol a bit.
AMAZING engines. Quietest takeoff on a domestic I've ever experienced. The cabin air was louder than the engines. Cabin air is also relatively quiet.
Our plane was definitely not full of avgeeks, though that would have been a lot of fun. It was a typical business trip. Very little fanfare from Delta, unfortunately. A sign during boarding and a special (upbeat) intro from the captain was all we got.
Main cabin seats are comfortable. I usually sit in Comf+ but switched onto this flight at the last minute to avoid a delay on my previous flight. Surprisingly good width and pitch, and a little bit of extra legroom too. Tall people will still hate these seats.
I'm going to pay for the upgrade to F on Sunday and see how those seats feel.
THE BATHROOM. It is easily the best bathroom on any domestic aircraft right now. It's relatively spacious AND IT HAS A WINDOW! No artificial light needed during the day!
IFE's are faster than the ones on the A320 series, but I think the screens are cheaper. They don't turn off when you try to them off (you get a black screen instead of no screen). Viewing angles on the screens in Main are about as good as a mid-range Thinkpad.
Interior lighting is nice, but I think the A319 has a better setup.
2Ku is fast, but traffic was spiky.
All in all, it's a massive upgrade from the E175/E190, which are good aircraft already. I'm going to enjoy flying to and from New York these next few weeks.

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I read the blog of the first flight. Those pilots sure seem awful old to be on the A220 considering there are captains in their 30's on the 717. Especially odd for a NYC base as well. That is always the most junior crew base.
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Originally Posted by readywhenyouare View Post
I read the blog of the first flight. Those pilots sure seem awful old to be on the A220 considering there are captains in their 30's on the 717. Especially odd for a NYC base as well. That is always the most junior crew base.
I think they put senior fleet managers on those specific flights.

Ultimately the A220 bid quite youthful because of the misery of the LGA base.
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I posted in the Trip Reports forum with my trip report which includes a video of the experience
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And this morning’s LGA-DFW (DL 2952) goes MX... not a great start to the second day of commercial service.
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Originally Posted by lawyertalk View Post
And this morning’s LGA-DFW (DL 2952) goes MX... not a great start to the second day of commercial service.
Expect teething as there always is on an aircraft new to an airline.

SwissAir has reported great reliability for their airframes (above expectations) so I doubt there are fundamental problems to worry about (at least in early life).

I hate CRJs with a passion, but reliability was never an issue with them (and as RJs, they are put through the grinder). Bombardier knows how to design workhorses.
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Long time reader, first time poster.. I flew on the inaugural LGA-BOS yesterday and then BOS-LGA later in the day.
My takeaways:
1) I sat row 1 LGA-BOS, then row 27 BOS-LGA. Decent legroom upfront, felt constrained in the back (fwiw, I'm 6'3"). Smart layout/features on the F seats with power, trays, and water bottle holders.

2) Very quiet engines, although a smidge more sound in the back than up front, of course. Takeoff is very quick and quiet.

3) Smart layout in overhead controls so no more accidental FA calls when turning on a light.

4) IFE is nice sized, even on the F bulkhead. Flight data wasn't correct as noted by Repooc17. Altitude/speed seemed glitchy, too. Really liked all the different views, especially Command View (which combines most of the others). On BOS-LGA, there was some trouble getting the safety video to play. Someone from TechOps was on the flight and from what I overheard, the IFE issues are a mix of technical and training.

5) Overheads are spacious and underseat seems a little tight; predict that those OHBs will be filled up.

6) The natural light from the window in the lav was fantastic and added to the sense of spaciousness (seems odd to say that about a lav).

7) Enjoyed the larger (and lower) windows.

8) Enjoyed the PA announcements not blaring through my headphones plugged into the IFE. The IFE has a modal banner stating [paraphrasing here]: 'PA in progress. Please remove your headphones'. I heard the guy from TechOps say this behavior was by design.

My return to CVG was on a CR9, and it was a bit disappointing after two flights on the A220 earlier in the day. Looking forward to when the the MDs and CRJs (especially CRJ-200s) are gone and these are plentiful in the fleet. Kudos to Bombardier and P&W on this hardware.
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Originally Posted by carlosnunez.dfw View Post
Took the inaugural DFW-LGA route on the BCS1, reg N104DU.
Boarding door floor panel still says "C Series", which made me lol a bit.
AMAZING engines. Quietest takeoff on a domestic I've ever experienced. The cabin air was louder than the engines. Cabin air is also relatively quiet.
Our plane was definitely not full of avgeeks, though that would have been a lot of fun. It was a typical business trip. Very little fanfare from Delta, unfortunately. A sign during boarding and a special (upbeat) intro from the captain was all we got.
Main cabin seats are comfortable. I usually sit in Comf+ but switched onto this flight at the last minute to avoid a delay on my previous flight. Surprisingly good width and pitch, and a little bit of extra legroom too. Tall people will still hate these seats.
I'm going to pay for the upgrade to F on Sunday and see how those seats feel.
THE BATHROOM. It is easily the best bathroom on any domestic aircraft right now. It's relatively spacious AND IT HAS A WINDOW! No artificial light needed during the day!
IFE's are faster than the ones on the A320 series, but I think the screens are cheaper. They don't turn off when you try to them off (you get a black screen instead of no screen). Viewing angles on the screens in Main are about as good as a mid-range Thinkpad.
Interior lighting is nice, but I think the A319 has a better setup.
2Ku is fast, but traffic was spiky.
All in all, it's a massive upgrade from the E175/E190, which are good aircraft already. I'm going to enjoy flying to and from New York these next few weeks.
You clearly were not at the gate area one hour prior to the flight where they had a ribbon cutting ceremony and Delta provided light catering that consisted of bagels to celebrate the A221 launch to New York.

Also, the Ship # was actually N103DU for the DFWLGA.
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Originally Posted by Intl359Widget View Post
You clearly were not at the gate area one hour prior to the flight where they had a ribbon cutting ceremony and Delta provided light catering that consisted of bagels to celebrate the A221 launch to New York.

Also, the Ship # was actually N103DU for the DFWLGA.
WAIT THEY HAD A RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY?!?!?!?!?!?!

I am so good at missing things!

Yes, I must have missed it because the gate area looked like any other day.

I thought I was on ship N104DU since the captain said this was the fourth one out and I thought the first one was registered as N100DU. Thanks for the correction!
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Originally Posted by Ysitincoach View Post
I think they put senior fleet managers on those specific flights.

Ultimately the A220 bid quite youthful because of the misery of the LGA base.
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Originally Posted by Ysitincoach View Post

Ultimately the A220 bid quite youthful because of the misery of the LGA base.
DL has a combined NYC base covering JFK/LGA/EWR flights. Pilots and FAs with seniority do seem to try to bid away from NYC cost of living.
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme View Post
DL has a combined NYC base covering JFK/LGA/EWR flights. Pilots and FAs with seniority do seem to try to bid away from NYC cost of living.
Specific to the A220 you can only bid LGA or SLC.
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"The A220 will allow Delta to upgauge more 76-seat regional jet flying to mainline aircraft, a move it began with the introduction of the 110-seat Boeing 717-200 in 2013, and likely replace some of the 717s down the road. "

While the above is true, Delta only got the 717s when AirTran was bought out by Southwest and they needed to divest the 717s to maintain a 737 fleet only. It all turned out rather well for Delta, but the corporate vision to move to mainline jets was facilitated as much by Southwest/AirTran as Delta.
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I suspect that ASA's poor performance and reputation encouraged Delta to explore expansion of mainline service for many routes and they were more than willing to jump on the cost-effective for their needs 717 to make that happen.
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Flew home to LGA from DFW yesterday on the A220. Overall agree with the above comments, I was in Comf+. Seat does feel a tad wider. Just nice to be on a clean, modern aircraft. Quiet takeoff was very cool.
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