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A220-100 cabin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhcRYQoPyZg
A220-300 cabin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkZFJqt9ons
Initial route list adapted from the Delta news hub:

Market (In-Service)
  • New York-LGA to Boston-BOS...Feb 7 2019.
  • New York-LGA to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW...Feb 7 2019.
  • Detroit-DTW to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW...Feb 14 2019.
  • New York-LGA to Houston-IAH...April 2019.
  • Salt Lake City-SLC to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW...May 2019.
  • Salt Lake City-SLC to San Jose-SJC...May 2019
  • San Jose-SJC to Seattle-SEA...June 8 2019 (2/6 flights daily).
  • Minneapolis/St. Paul-MSP to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW...June 2019.
  • Houston-IAH to Detroit-DTW & Minneapolis/St. Paul-MSP...July 2019.
  • Houston-IAH to Salt Lake City-SLC...July 2019.
  • New York-JFK to Dallas/Ft. Worth-DFW...Aug 2019.

First scheduled A220-300 routes.
  • Salt Lake City-SLC to Houston-IAH...started Nov 17 2020.
  • Salt Lake City-SLC to San Jose-SJC...started Nov 21 2020.
  • Salt Lake City-SLC to Sacramento-SMF...started Nov 25 2020.
  • Salt Lake City-SLC to Austin-AUS...started Nov 27 2020.
  • Salt Lake City-SLC to Denver-DEN...started Dec 18 2020.
  • Salt Lake City-SLC to Dallas-DFW...started Dec 26 2020.
  • Salt Lake City-SLC to Santa Ana-SNA...started Jan 4 2021.
  • Salt Lake City-SLC to Nashville-BNA...started Jan 7 2021.

For those interested in the original DL order and subsequent news, here is the original thread: Delta Orders 75 CS100's.

A220-100 orders:
MSN #...Fleet ...Registration #...Delivery info and notes:

50020 8101 N101DU Delivered YMX>ATL Oct 26 2018. Entered service Feb 14 2019 DFW>DTW. ViaSat IFC.
50021 8102 N102DU Delivered YMX>ATL Dec 18 2018. Entered service Feb 7 2019 LGA>BOS. ViaSat IFC (prototype).
50022 8103 N103DU Delivered YMX>ATL Dec 8 2018. Entered service Feb 7 2019 DFW>LGA. Parked @ SBD 1/4/24. ViaSat IFC.
50023 8104 N104DU Delivered YMX>ATL Dec 31 2018. Entered service Feb 7 2019 LGA>DFW.
50024 8105 N105DU Delivered YMX>ATL Feb 16 2019. Entered service Feb 23 2019 LGA>DFW. Parked @ SBD 12/4/23. ViaSat IFC.
50025 8106 N106DU Delivered YMX>ATL Feb 22 2019. Entered service March 9 2019 DTW>DFW. Parked @ SBD 1/9/24. ViaSat IFC.
50026 8107 N107DU Delivered YMX>ATL March 1 2019. Entered service April 7 2019 DFW>LGA. Parked @ SBD 11/16/23. ViaSat IFC.
50027 8108 N108DQ Delivered YMX>ATL April 26 2019. Entered service May 3 2019 DFW>DTW.
50028 8109 N109DU Delivered YMX>ATL March 13 2019. Entered service March 22 2019 DFW>DTW.
50029 8110 N110DU Delivered YMX>ATL March 29 2019. Entered service April 10 2019 DTW>DFW. Parked @ SBD 1/17/24. ViaSat IFC.
50030 8111 N111NG Delivered YMX>ATL June 6 2019. Entered service June 14 2019 DTW>DFW.
50031 8112 N112DU Delivered YMX>ATL April 18 2019. Entered service May 1 2019 DFW>SLC.
50032 8113 N113DQ Delivered YMX>ATL May 20 2019. Entered service May 25 2019 DFW>SLC.
50033 8114 N114DU Delivered YMX>ATL May 30 2019. Entered service June 7 2019 DTW>DFW.
50034 8115 N115DU Delivered YMX>ATL June 18 2019. Entered service June 27 2019 DTW>DFW.
50035 8116 N116DU Delivered YMX>ATL June 21 2019. Entered service June 28 2019 MSP>DFW.
50036 8117 N117DU Delivered YMX>ATL June 25 2019. Entered service July 5 2019 DFW>SLC.
50037 8118 N118DU Delivered YMX>ATL June 28 2019. Entered service July 11 2019 SLC>DFW.
50038 8119 N119DU Delivered YMX>ATL July 12 2019. Entered service July 22 2019 DFW>LGA.
50039 8120 N120DU Delivered YMX>ATL July 25 2019. Entered service Aug 1 2019 DTW>EWR.
50040 8121 N121DU Delivered YMX>ATL Aug 9 2019. Entered service Aug 20 2019 DFW>DTW.
50041 8122 N122DU Delivered YMX>ATL Aug 29 2019. Entered service Sept 12 2019 DFW>DTW
50042 8123 N123DQ Delivered YMX>ATL Sept 17 2019. Entered service Sept 27 2019 DTW>IAH.
50043 8124 N124DU Delivered YMX>ATL Sept 23 2019. Entered service Oct 2 2019 MEM>DFW.
50044 8125 N125DU Delivered YMX>ATL Sept 30 2019. Entered service Oct 9 2019 LGA>IAH.
50045 8126 N126DU Delivered YMX>ATL Oct 10 2019. Entered service Oct 21 2019 SLC>SFO.
50046 8127 N127DU Delivered YMX>ATL Oct 30 2019. Entered service Nov 14 2019 SEA>DEN.
50047 8128 N128DU Delivered YMX>ATL Nov 21 2019. Entered service Nov 29 2019 SEA>DEN.
50048 8129 N129DU Delivered YMX>ATL Jan 24 2020. Entered service Feb 3 2020 LGA>BOS.
50049 8130 N130DU Delivered YMX>ATL Feb 28 2020. Entered service March 11 2020 MSP>DFW.
50050 8131 N131DU Delivered YMX>ATL March 6 2020. Entered service March 16 2020 DTW>DFW.
50051 8132 N132DU Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 22 2020. Entered service Nov 19 2020 MSP>LGA. Parked @ SBD 1/29/24. ViaSat IFC.
50052 8133 N133DU Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 23 2020. Entered service Nov 20 2020 MSP>BNA.
50053 8134 N134DU Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 29 2020. Entered service Dec 18 2020 MSP>BNA.
50054 8135 N135DQ Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 30 2020. Entered service Dec 18 2020 MSP>JFK. Parked @ SBD 1/8/24. ViaSat IFC.
50055 8136 N136DQ Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 31 2020. Entered service Jan 14 2021 MSP>LGA.
50056 8137 N137DU Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 31 2020. Entered service Jan 16 2021 MSP>LAX.
50057 8138 N138DU Delivered YMX>MSP Oct 24 2020. Entered service Dec 19 2020 MSP>LGA. Parked @ SBD 9/3/23. ViaSat IFC.
50058 8139 N139DU Delivered YMX>MSP Feb 5 2021. Entered service March 17 2020 MSP>BOS.
50059 8140 N140DU Delivered YMX>MSP Jan 29 2021. Entered service Feb 13 2021 MSP>AUS. Parked @ SBD 10/30/23. ViaSat IFC.
50061 8141 N141DU Delivered YMX>MSP March 9 2021. Entered service April 2 2021 MSP>LGA. Parked @ SBD 10/18/23. ViaSat IFC.
50060 8142 N142DU Delivered YMX>MSP Feb 18 2022. Entered service March 1 2022 MSP>ORD.
50063 8143 N143DU Delivered YMX>MSP Feb 1 2022. Entered service Feb 10 2022 MSP>JFK.
50064 8144 N144DU Delivered YMX>MSP March 8 2022. Entered service March 17 2022 BOS>CVG. Parked @ SBD 9/14/23. ViaSat IFC.
50065 8145 N145DQ Delivered YMX>MSP April 1 2022. Entered service April 12 2022 MSP>STL.

A220-300 orders
MSN #...Fleet #...Registration #...Delivery info and notes: ViaSat IFC installation in progress - 20/24

55069 8301 N301DU…Delivered BFM>MSP March 18 2021…Entered service April 1 2021 MSP>AUS. ViaSat IFC.
55070 8302 N302DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Oct 22 2020….Entered service Nov 17 2020 SLC>IAH. ViaSat IFC.
55075 8303 N303DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Oct 23 2020…Entered service Dec 8 2020 SLC>SMF. ViaSat IFC.
55080 8304 N304DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Oct 26 2020…Entered service Jan 7 2021 SLC>SNA. ViaSat IFC.
55084 8305 N305DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Oct 30 2020…Entered service Jan 7 2021 SLC>AUS. ViaSat IFC.
55085 8306 N306DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Dec 7 2020…Entered service Jan 15 2021 ATL>SEA. ViaSat IFC.
55096 8307 N307DU…Delivered BFM>MSP Feb 1 2021…Entered service Feb 19 2021 MSP>AUS. ViaSat IFC.
55101 8308 N308DU…Delivered BFM>MSP April 14 2021…Entered service May 1 2021 MSP>BOS. ViaSat IFC.
55107 8309 N309DU…Delivered BFM>MSP June 10 2021…Entered service June 26 2021 MSP>LGA. ViaSat IFC.
55142 8310 N310DU…Delivered BFM>MSP Dec 16 2021… Entered service Dec 26 2021 MSP>LGA.
55153 8311 N311DU…Delivered BFM>MSP June 16 2022…Entered service June 26 2022 MSP>SNA.
55170 8312 N312DU…Delivered BFM>MSP Sept 30 2022…Entered service Oct 14 2022 SEA>SMF.
55175 8313 N313DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Nov 8 2022…Entered service Nov 24 2022 SLC>STL.
55192 8314 N314DU…Delivered BFM>MSP Feb 24 2023…Entered service March 15 2023 MSP>DFW. ViaSat IFC.
55195 8315 N315DU…Delivered BFM>ATL Dec 30 2022…Entered service Jan 22 2023 SLC>DEN. ViaSat IFC.
55207 8316 N316DU...Delivered BFM>MSP June 20 2023…Entered service July 8 2023 MSP>SAT. ViaSat IFC.
55212 8317 N317DU...Delivered BFM>MSP Aug 1 2023…Entered service Aug 11 2023 MSP>IAH. ViaSat IFC.
55220 8318 N318DU...Delivered BFM>MSP Sept 1 2023…Entered service Sept 13 2023 MSP>IAH. ViaSat IFC.
55228 8319 N319DU...Delivered BFM>MSP Oct 31 2023…Entered service Nov 10 2023 MSP>ORD. ViaSat IFC.
55237 8320 N320DU...Delivered BFM>MSP Nov 21 2023…Entered service Dec 2 2023 MSP>DFW. ViaSat IFC.
55256 8321 N321DU...Delivered YMX>MSP Dec 19 2023...Entered service Dec 29 2023 MSP>SJC. ViaSat IFC.
55266 8322 N322DU...Delivered BFM>MSP March 1 2024…Entered service March 10 2024 MSP>DFW. ViaSat IFC.
55259 8323 N323DU...Delivered YMX>MSP Dec 21 2023...Entered service Dec 30 2023 MSP>JFK. ViaSat IFC.
55261 8324 N324DU...Delivered YMX>MSP Dec 28 2023...Entered service Jan 7 2024 MSP>DFW. ViaSat IFC.
55272 8325 N325DU...Delivered YMX>MSP Apr 18 2024...In induction...showing service entry Apr 27 2024. ViaSat IFC.
55xxx 8326 N326DU…2024 delivery.
55xxx 8327 N327DU…2024 delivery.
55xxx 8328 N328DU…2024 delivery.
55xxx 8329 N329DU…2024 delivery.
55xxx 8330 N330DU…2024 delivery.


Number of A223s being delivered per year as of 12/31/23:
2024 7
2025 8
2026 14
2027 & later 48
Final Total 86

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Old Jan 10, 2019, 1:41 am
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The A220 experience is pretty distinctive - roomy in economy, really quiet yet powerful takeoffs.

It's a shame DL didn't pay for better engines.
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Delta ordered 15 additional A220's and converted 50 orders to A220-300s

From the AJC:
Delta orders 15 more Airbus A220 jets, upgrades to larger version
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 1:04 pm
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That article is a joke. I've never seen so many "might"s and "may"s in one article. And everything is attributed to "Sources" or "Reportedly". My niece's high school newspaper has higher standards than that.
What precisely are you contesting in the article? FAA certification is required and most non-essential FAA functions are shut down. I am sure Delta is working through the problem but it is not unlikely that there would be issues.
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 2:10 pm
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Just read at Airways that Delta may have to delay the entry into service of the A220. It seems that with the government shutdown many FAA inspectors have been furloughed and Delta is having a hard time getting the ones remaining to cover the route proving flights necessary for the certification of a new type into their fleet. And the beat goes on...
CNBC is confirming the reporting

Airlines can't get federal officials to sign off on new planes and routes amid the U.S. government shutdown, while keeping federal aviation workers furloughed or unpaid altogether threatens the country's key aviation sector, industry members said Thursday.

Airlines need federal safety inspectors to debut new aircraft. For example, Delta Air Lines scheduled a launch Jan. 31 of its brand-new Airbus A220, a plane it's using to court business travelers with bigger seats and windows. It needs to fly with FAA safety inspectors before the aircraft can be introduced to the public. Additionally, Southwest Airlines is awaiting government approval to begin service to Hawaii.

"This partial shutdown has already inflicted real damage to our nation's aviation system and the impacts will only worsen over time," said the letter, signed by unions representing pilots, flight attendants and mechanics, and a trade group that represents American Airlines, United Airlines and FedEx, among other large carriers.Investors are starting to take note. Jamie Baker, airline analyst at J.P. Morgan Chase, said even if the government reopens soon, it could ding first-quarter airline revenues and said "idled workers are increasingly unlikely to plan lavish summer vacations."
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/10/gove...spections.html
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 3:18 pm
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Originally Posted by ethernal
What precisely are you contesting in the article? FAA certification is required and most non-essential FAA functions are shut down. I am sure Delta is working through the problem but it is not unlikely that there would be issues.
I'm not contesting anything, I'm just saying the article is full of guesswork with no supporting evidence whatsoever. In my opinion, it's very sloppy journalism.

Incidentally, Delta themselves say things are under control: "Delta continues to monitor the situation and will work with the FAA to ensure that the A220 is fully certified when it enters our fleet. No customer disruption or impact to schedules are expected."
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 3:24 pm
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
I'm not contesting anything, I'm just saying the article is full of guesswork with no supporting evidence whatsoever. In my opinion, it's very sloppy journalism.

Incidentally, Delta themselves say things are under control: "Delta continues to monitor the situation and will work with the FAA to ensure that the A220 is fully certified when it enters our fleet. No customer disruption or impact to schedules are expected."
I'm not sure what guesswork the article is implying. The groups that certify planes at the FAA are furloughed... this may disrupt Delta's ability to fly the A220 as planned. That isn't guesswork, that's just common sense. Hopefully all this gets sorted before the end of January and Delta can scramble to get certified, but there is no guarantee of this.

In terms of "under control", Delta's statement is corporate speak that just says that they will have to follow the FAA rules (duh) and that they will still run schedules as planned (just likely with different planes if required - Delta does not consider an equipment swap to be a customer disruption). They have plenty of spare MDs (incl. 717s) in low season that they can run on this route if needed (I assume they would pick an MD since the seating capacity and arrangement is similar).
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Originally Posted by ethernal
I'm not sure what guesswork the article is implying. The groups that certify planes at the FAA are furloughed... this may disrupt Delta's ability to fly the A220 as planned. That isn't guesswork, that's just common sense. Hopefully all this gets sorted before the end of January and Delta can scramble to get certified, but there is no guarantee of this.

In terms of "under control", Delta's statement is corporate speak that just says that they will have to follow the FAA rules (duh) and that they will still run schedules as planned (just likely with different planes if required - Delta does not consider an equipment swap to be a customer disruption). They have plenty of spare MDs (incl. 717s) in low season that they can run on this route if needed (I assume they would pick an MD since the seating capacity and arrangement is similar).
They can't run MD88s out of LGA because of sound restrictions.
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by ethernal
I'm not sure what guesswork the article is implying. The groups that certify planes at the FAA are furloughed... this may disrupt Delta's ability to fly the A220 as planned. That isn't guesswork, that's just common sense. Hopefully all this gets sorted before the end of January and Delta can scramble to get certified, but there is no guarantee of this.

In terms of "under control", Delta's statement is corporate speak that just says that they will have to follow the FAA rules (duh) and that they will still run schedules as planned (just likely with different planes if required - Delta does not consider an equipment swap to be a customer disruption). They have plenty of spare MDs (incl. 717s) in low season that they can run on this route if needed (I assume they would pick an MD since the seating capacity and arrangement is similar).
What percentage of the certification process is complete? What steps remain? Has the process come to a full stop, or is it simply slowed down? Who are your sources for this information? When you say "reportedly": reported by who? What were their sources?

When an article answers the above, that to me will be a well researched article. The article under discussion answers NONE of those questions. That, to me, is sloppy.

Look, you don't have to agree. It's possible I just have higher standards of evidence and journalism than you do. That's fine. I'm not going to spend more time on this.
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 3:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Pianoman109876
They can't run MD88s out of LGA because of sound restrictions.
I mentioned 717 as this is almost certainly the plane swap they would use (110 seats vs 109 seats, identical F layout and 1 extra row of C+ means no bumps) and they are still approved to fly out of LGA. I consider a 717 an MD despite the Boeing rebrand, so apologies for any confusion.
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
What percentage of the certification process is complete? What steps remain? Has the process come to a full stop, or is it simply slowed down? Who are your sources for this information? When you say "reportedly": reported by who? What were their sources?

When an article answers the above, that to me will be a well researched article. The article under discussion answers NONE of those questions. That, to me, is sloppy.

Look, you don't have to agree. It's possible I just have higher standards of evidence and journalism than you do. That's fine. I'm not going to spend more time on this.
Fair enough. I agree it could have been better reported. Don't think it was worth writing a cranky complaint about shoddy reporting about.

Ironic that you have high standards for reporting and then read a means-nothing Delta statement as being relevant...
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 4:12 pm
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Originally Posted by ethernal
Fair enough. I agree it could have been better reported. Don't think it was worth writing a cranky complaint about shoddy reporting about.
Ummm, I was neither cranky nor did I complain. I provided my critique. I don't let other people's sloppiness impact my mood, that would be really silly!
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
Ummm, I was neither cranky nor did I complain. I provided my critique. I don't let other people's sloppiness impact my mood, that would be really silly!
Haha true, cranky was perhaps the wrong word to use. Touche!
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 4:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Pianoman109876
They can't run MD88s out of LGA because of sound restrictions.
Is this true? I had heard it was because the 88 has an older flight computer than can't handle the newest routings into/out of LGA but both explanations seem plausible.
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 4:34 pm
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Originally Posted by ab2013
The A220 experience is pretty distinctive - roomy in economy, really quiet yet powerful takeoffs.

It's a shame DL didn't pay for better engines the better software option.
Fixed it for you.
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Old Jan 10, 2019, 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by pvn
Is this true? I had heard it was because the 88 has an older flight computer than can't handle the newest routings into/out of LGA but both explanations seem plausible.
At least according to Delta it was primarily related to noise but that could be a surface PR excuse only - see here. I haven't read anything about flight computers, although I do know that the new ATC standards to reduce flight separation distance (i.e., NextGen) are most beneficial in the crowded corridors around LGA. That said, as far as I know that is not yet implemented so don't believe that would be the case? I am not an expert here though so I could be wrong.

edit: after some digging, there is some talk about RNAV requirements at LGA in this thread. My takeaway is that Delta probably could have managed to continue to fly MD-88s out of LGA (excluding pressure on noise issues) but decided it wasn't worth the effort.

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