Threat from Delta FA about Calling Customs on Passenger with Duty Free
Sep 9, 2018, 12:03 pm
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To those questioning carry on policy at the gate in SDQ - technically DL policy allows duty free and other airport purchases on board in addition to the normal carry on allowance - and if this wasn't enough support, I'm sure it was inexpensive enough to bribe the GA
Sep 9, 2018, 12:29 pm
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Right and wrong.
Right that the issue of drinking one's own booze onboard is a matter of DL's safety & security policy filed with FAA and thus enforceable as a DOT violation (max fine $11,000) and has nothing to do with CBP. As it is a carrier rule, the policy can and does vary by carrier. In the particular case, the larger question is why on earth DL would permit anyone to bring 10 carryons onto an aircraft, whether they contain alcohol or paper towels.
Wrong that duty free is not worth it for importation into the US. While it may be that duty free is rarely a particularly good deal, it is rubbish that CBP imposes a duty on all imported liquor. There is, in fact a variable duty free allowance by both dollar value and alcohol volume.
Right that the issue of drinking one's own booze onboard is a matter of DL's safety & security policy filed with FAA and thus enforceable as a DOT violation (max fine $11,000) and has nothing to do with CBP. As it is a carrier rule, the policy can and does vary by carrier. In the particular case, the larger question is why on earth DL would permit anyone to bring 10 carryons onto an aircraft, whether they contain alcohol or paper towels.
Wrong that duty free is not worth it for importation into the US. While it may be that duty free is rarely a particularly good deal, it is rubbish that CBP imposes a duty on all imported liquor. There is, in fact a variable duty free allowance by both dollar value and alcohol volume.
121.575 Alcoholic beverages.
(a) No person may drink any alcoholic beverage aboard an aircraft unless the certificate holder operating the aircraft has served that beverage to him.
A airline may chose to serve alcohol brought by the pax ie JBU but that is purely a customer service issue and has nothing to do with the FAA.
Sep 9, 2018, 1:32 pm
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Incorrect it is an FAR
121.575 Alcoholic beverages.
(a) No person may drink any alcoholic beverage aboard an aircraft unless the certificate holder operating the aircraft has served that beverage to him.
A airline may chose to serve alcohol brought by the pax ie JBU but that is purely a customer service issue and has nothing to do with the FAA.
121.575 Alcoholic beverages.
(a) No person may drink any alcoholic beverage aboard an aircraft unless the certificate holder operating the aircraft has served that beverage to him.
A airline may chose to serve alcohol brought by the pax ie JBU but that is purely a customer service issue and has nothing to do with the FAA.
Sep 9, 2018, 5:28 pm
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I'm sorry that you've experienced other cultures but haven't noticed that American culture is far more rife with violent images and language than most. It's hardly a borderline claim. There's considerable research on the phenomena.
Sep 9, 2018, 5:39 pm
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Sep 9, 2018, 6:11 pm
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I think countries that execute people for having views contrary to and/or peacefully demonstrating against their government meet the criteria for using fear and intimidation to control and create compliance. In Iran the government even hangs executed people in public squares for the public to see. Nobody needs to live in those countries to understand the extreme human rights abuses and extrajudicial killings that go on. Suggesting it is hypocritical, when a plethora of evidence exists to prove these events, indicates you may live in a bubble.
I can only speak to my personal experience. What I notice in the US is that the media sensationalizes negative events, but all around the world the same violent movies/tv shows/video games are shown/available. Other than on the news, I don't experience any more violent images or language in the US than I do in most other countries I have been to. I am not sure how this all leads to "It's all about fear, compliance, intimidation, and control.", there are many other countries/cultures I have experienced where I feel much more intimidation and fear.
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Sep 9, 2018, 6:35 pm
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I think the thread has become a "are we just as bad as Iran and North Korea thread.
Personally, I just found it excessive and odd that the FA would say they will inform customs and wait for police to arrive if someone opened their duty free liquor. Had I been the gentlemen who boarded and immediately heard that announcement I would have felt uncomfortable and would have felt singled out, not because of my bad taste in liquor (he had bags of Barcelo) but because I just got called out and I hadn't even sat in my seat yet.
By the way, the guy cleared passport control with no issue, but he did get pulled aside for a secondary check after he claimed his baggage. But I doubt the FA called customs on him, the 10 bags screamed bother me.
Personally, I just found it excessive and odd that the FA would say they will inform customs and wait for police to arrive if someone opened their duty free liquor. Had I been the gentlemen who boarded and immediately heard that announcement I would have felt uncomfortable and would have felt singled out, not because of my bad taste in liquor (he had bags of Barcelo) but because I just got called out and I hadn't even sat in my seat yet.
By the way, the guy cleared passport control with no issue, but he did get pulled aside for a secondary check after he claimed his baggage. But I doubt the FA called customs on him, the 10 bags screamed bother me.
Sep 10, 2018, 9:37 am
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FA needs some lessons in dealing with the public. I had an supr in a service business treat customers similar to that. She is still looking for her "best" job.
Luck for the FA the person she may have been after did not cause a ruckus and blame her for discrimination - we all know how that goes.
As to the passenger - I wonder if they had to connect in the states and therefore could no longer carry the booze on board...LOL!
Luck for the FA the person she may have been after did not cause a ruckus and blame her for discrimination - we all know how that goes.
As to the passenger - I wonder if they had to connect in the states and therefore could no longer carry the booze on board...LOL!
