Standby Qs
Jul 22, 2018, 9:13 am
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Standby Qs
ive never had any issues changing flights and getting confirmed right away. My last two trips some weird things have happened. I got caught up in a fare class deal a couple of weeks ago but did get confirmed when weather messed up my original flight.
Today when I go through booking I see the flight I want has a ton of open seats, however it’s 40 min to departure and I’m still on standby (1st so I will likely be OK). Also the gate agent just announced that it’s a very full flight looking for bags to gate check which doesnt Jive with the seat map.
Im GM
what gives? No idea if today is a fare class deal or what shenanigans are in effect.
Today when I go through booking I see the flight I want has a ton of open seats, however it’s 40 min to departure and I’m still on standby (1st so I will likely be OK). Also the gate agent just announced that it’s a very full flight looking for bags to gate check which doesnt Jive with the seat map.
Im GM
what gives? No idea if today is a fare class deal or what shenanigans are in effect.
Jul 22, 2018, 9:36 am
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A fare class deal, or a fare rule deal that demands a specific routing you want to violate? Same Day Confirmed changes require purchased fare class to be available. Standby does not. Basic Economy fares aren't eligible for Same Day Confirmed nor standby.
Jul 22, 2018, 10:14 am
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GA announcement about “we have a very full flight, we will be forcing the last boarding groups to check bags” is part of the standard script regardless of whether the flight is booked to 59% or 95%
Jul 22, 2018, 10:27 am
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Jul 22, 2018, 11:52 am
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Jul 22, 2018, 12:29 pm
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ive never had any issues changing flights and getting confirmed right away. My last two trips some weird things have happened. I got caught up in a fare class deal a couple of weeks ago but did get confirmed when weather messed up my original flight.
Today when I go through booking I see the flight I want has a ton of open seats, however it’s 40 min to departure and I’m still on standby (1st so I will likely be OK). Also the gate agent just announced that it’s a very full flight looking for bags to gate check which doesnt Jive with the seat map.
Im GM
what gives? No idea if today is a fare class deal or what shenanigans are in effect.
Today when I go through booking I see the flight I want has a ton of open seats, however it’s 40 min to departure and I’m still on standby (1st so I will likely be OK). Also the gate agent just announced that it’s a very full flight looking for bags to gate check which doesnt Jive with the seat map.
Im GM
what gives? No idea if today is a fare class deal or what shenanigans are in effect.
Jul 24, 2018, 12:56 pm
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I got on and EC to boot. I never book the new bottom end level of fare. Regular economy.
My my point is that the fare class thing is just an artifice to create limitations. I have no clue what U vs E vs Y means. I buy what is shown online for the price shown. I’m not given the option of a different “letter” class unless I pay for an upgraded ticket. Clearly some letters are different for different times of day so I could choose a “better” letter but I’m really just buying on price and/or schedule.
As flyers we are just fish getting scammed by a system. No issues with those that know how to best work the system.
In general Delta treats me very well as mostly GM it higher the past decade add plus. They aren’t unique. But it is a purposefully confusing and imo dishonest system. Like cell phone plans and mattresses.
My my point is that the fare class thing is just an artifice to create limitations. I have no clue what U vs E vs Y means. I buy what is shown online for the price shown. I’m not given the option of a different “letter” class unless I pay for an upgraded ticket. Clearly some letters are different for different times of day so I could choose a “better” letter but I’m really just buying on price and/or schedule.
As flyers we are just fish getting scammed by a system. No issues with those that know how to best work the system.
In general Delta treats me very well as mostly GM it higher the past decade add plus. They aren’t unique. But it is a purposefully confusing and imo dishonest system. Like cell phone plans and mattresses.
Jul 24, 2018, 1:03 pm
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My brain hurts from reading that post. I think you got the basic understanding, but not quite sure at same time.
Jul 24, 2018, 2:49 pm
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translated as "not particularly customer-friendly" because, while making (at least some) passengers feel like they got a better deal than they might have otherwise, it's expressly designed to benefit the airline's bottom line ... I suspect many if not most FT regulars are among those who (as you so eloquently put it) "know how to best work the system" so we tend to be a bit more jaded
Jul 25, 2018, 10:32 am
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I get it I just don’t like it nor do I understand the nuances.
So so the second part- as a business traveler required to book reasonable fares, is there much I can do to ensure I got a better spot in line without have to justify why I paid $200 for the ticket? I have some leeway- don’t have to budget airlines or bad flight schedules but all else being equal I don’t have unlimited discretion.
So so the second part- as a business traveler required to book reasonable fares, is there much I can do to ensure I got a better spot in line without have to justify why I paid $200 for the ticket? I have some leeway- don’t have to budget airlines or bad flight schedules but all else being equal I don’t have unlimited discretion.
Jul 25, 2018, 12:46 pm
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I get it I just don’t like it nor do I understand the nuances.
So so the second part- as a business traveler required to book reasonable fares, is there much I can do to ensure I got a better spot in line without have to justify why I paid $200 for the ticket? I have some leeway- don’t have to budget airlines or bad flight schedules but all else being equal I don’t have unlimited discretion.
So so the second part- as a business traveler required to book reasonable fares, is there much I can do to ensure I got a better spot in line without have to justify why I paid $200 for the ticket? I have some leeway- don’t have to budget airlines or bad flight schedules but all else being equal I don’t have unlimited discretion.
I don't know how lenient your employer is, but I've paid this difference out of my own pocket several times in order to get home earlier (my employer will pay for it if there's a business reason for the change). Just depends on how you value your time/money.