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I've gone a little crazy with my award tickets

I've gone a little crazy with my award tickets

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Old Jul 19, 18, 5:49 pm
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Originally Posted by CPMaverick View Post
That's really nice of you, thanks for making it harder for the rest of us to find inventory!

Accounts like yours will be the reason they take away the free redeposit in the future.

I hope at least you cancel them with some reasonable amount of time before the flight.
Well slap my face and color me pink! At one point in 2016 I held @ 580K in pending award tickets. (Two pair to Europe, one pair to SIN and multiple domestic.) At any time half were on the block to cancel, but I didn't! Burned the points and a lot of vacation days! (2017 sucked having to actually act like I like being in the job.)
So I say if you have the miles and the status to return if you desire book them at good rates and don't worry about anyone else and inventory availability.
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Old Jul 19, 18, 5:56 pm
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Originally Posted by TheHorta View Post
If this is common practice to any extent it must really mess with Delta’s SkyMiles liability calculations, which I suspect isn’t a welcome variable.
If it was a significant problem, I can you assure that Delta would have already taken corrective action.

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Old Jul 19, 18, 6:00 pm
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Originally Posted by jiaogulan View Post
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Reminds me of the guy who wrote into Lucky at OMAAT for getting a warning email from SPG. This fool canceled 90% of the reservations he made. He is lucky ALL he got was a warning. Almost as gross as this guy, was that Lucky basically said the guy was pushing things a bit, but did not call him out for the absurdity. I actually like Lucky quite a bit, but I must say I lost some respect for him after that article.
Ummm... why in the world should a blogger be responsible for policing the morals of anonymous readers?

That's absurd

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Old Jul 19, 18, 7:29 pm
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Originally Posted by scubadu View Post
Ummm... why in the world should a blogger be responsible for policing the morals of anonymous readers?

That's absurd

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It has nothing to do with policing his readers. It is everything to do with addressing a situation for what it is.

I am talking about the blogger's decision making/communication style. And the fact a 90% cancellation rate is a joke. He shouldn't castrate the reader, but he shouldn't give him a cupcake.
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Old Jul 19, 18, 7:40 pm
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What is the difference between OP using SM to hold many non-conflicting reservations and buying a bunch of fully refundable revenue tickets - other than the fact that the SM tickets must be cancelled by T-72?
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Old Jul 19, 18, 8:34 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO View Post
DL will sell a ticket for certain $. It doesn't mean they're ok with you booking flights you most likely never would take. DL could close OP account for booking flights with zero intention of flying them. It effects both mileage tickets and case tickets.
I see nothing to suggest that the OP has zero intent to fly these tickets, just that they’re not sure if they’re going to fly them. Huge difference.
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Old Jul 19, 18, 9:23 pm
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I see nothing to suggest that the OP has zero intent to fly these tickets, just that they’re not sure if they’re going to fly them. Huge difference.
At time of booking he is booking just because it's a deal. Not because he thinks he might need or be able to go.
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Old Jul 19, 18, 9:26 pm
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Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle View Post
What is the difference between OP using SM to hold many non-conflicting reservations and buying a bunch of fully refundable revenue tickets - other than the fact that the SM tickets must be cancelled by T-72?
Not much, really. The OP has half a million miles out there. It really doesn't buy that many tickets.

Years ago - nearly a decade? - Delta restricted the number of free redeposits for Plats. Oh, the crap-storm. If it's a problem Delta will change rules to deal with it.
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Old Jul 20, 18, 6:42 am
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Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle View Post
What is the difference between OP using SM to hold many non-conflicting reservations and buying a bunch of fully refundable revenue tickets - other than the fact that the SM tickets must be cancelled by T-72?
The award inventory he's consuming is much more limited than fully-refundable cash fare inventory, and when he cancels the tickets that inventory is not necessarily replenished.
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Old Jul 20, 18, 8:31 am
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Originally Posted by flyerCO View Post
At time of booking he is booking just because it's a deal. Not because he thinks he might need or be able to go.
Of course he's booking because he might need or be able to go. He's booking the tickets because they're a good deal and he may want to take advantage of that good deal. He doesn't know for sure, but again, that's completely different than having zero intention to fly.
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Old Jul 20, 18, 2:47 pm
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On one hand I can't fault OP for maximizing PM/DM benefits. The award-re-deposit waiver is one of the best perks of PM/DM status and I have frequently switched flights around as space opens up on better flights. But on the other hand, I wouldn't brag about what could be viewed from some perspectives as "abuse" and give DL a reason to reduce or eliminate this benefit. "The squeaky wheel gets the grease".
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Old Jul 20, 18, 3:18 pm
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I cruise the award pages and book award travel that isn’t firm..I didn’t used to do that but the award pricing has become so bizarre that I usually have 3-4 trips booked and take one or two...it’s hard to have a trip confirmed 330 days out..but also the award booking has become difficult especially with partners...

I snagged a ticket to Bali via Garuda through ICN for 160k in J last year and it was great, just for giggles I ran the same route and it came in at 600k...

with the new pricing system and booking engine im forced to trade sponteneity with frequency and then cancel as the flight approaches if my schedule doesn’t permit the travel to work...to clarify my trips are all long crazy flights almost always with skyteam partners to complete the flight...
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Old Jul 20, 18, 3:57 pm
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FT is quite an echo chamber. Although it sounds like OP has snapped up all the inventory across the entire schedule, in context we're talking about an excruciatingly, pitifully small amount of reward inventory which OP has notionally 'blocked' here. My guess is under 20 sectors?

More importantly, it's an entirely valid strategy, currently given DL's blessing. Many airlines reward status holders with some ability to book and cancel mileage redemptions without penalty. It's a perk these airlines are very well aware they are giving. I assume they've done their research and they feel it keeps customers loyal. Thus mentioning ('advertizing') it on here works both ways (that's if you believe FT has that much sway). On the one hand it might bring the behavior to DL's attention; on the other hand DL might feel mention of this perk on FT creates an incentive for current readers/customers to attain even higher status. Or - most likely - FT is an echo chamber with very little impact on airline revenue strategy.

Finally, I think of airline miles as a financial instrument of sorts. In which case I believe they are better invested in the market than kept under the mattress.

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Old Jul 20, 18, 8:16 pm
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I often have 40-50 Skymiles flights booked and the occasional CSR has mentioned it. The thing is that booking well in advance scores the cheap prices, so I book anything that is a maybe. My one way back from Europe went from 40k well in advance to 100k a few weeks before.
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Old Jul 20, 18, 9:45 pm
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Originally Posted by kaw753 View Post
I often have 40-50 Skymiles flights booked and the occasional CSR has mentioned it. The thing is that booking well in advance scores the cheap prices, so I book anything that is a maybe. My one way back from Europe went from 40k well in advance to 100k a few weeks before.
and people wonder why there's no low inventory.
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