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Passenger who caused flight diversion is paying for it

Old Jul 11, 18, 7:40 am
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Passenger who caused flight diversion is paying for it

I didn't see this covered elsewhere but the unruly passenger who caused a PDX-ATL flight to divert to TUL back in May will pay DL $9,118 for the diversion. He also pleaded guilty to a federal assault charge. This is the first time I'm reading about someone who caused a diversion having to pay the airline for it.

https://www.seattlepi.com/news/crime...m-13064233.php

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Old Jul 11, 18, 7:46 am
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Originally Posted by RobOnLI View Post
I didn't see this covered elsewhere but the unruly passenger who caused a PDX-ATL flight to divert to TUL back in May will pay DL $9,118 for the diversion. He also pleaded guilty to a federal assault charge. This is the first time I'm reading about someone who caused a diversion having to pay the airline for it.

https://www.seattlepi.com/news/crime...m-13064233.php

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Happens frequently. This issue is do they actually pay it. The order to pay is one thing, collecting another.
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Old Jul 11, 18, 7:48 am
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It's too bad they couldn't make him pay for the hotels, meals, misconnect time etc. A little over $9,000 isn't a deterrent to most people, but when you see the airline charging a few hundred thousand, people might actually grow up and be a little more respectful in the airport and airplane.
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Old Jul 11, 18, 7:52 am
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Originally Posted by aviatorzz View Post
It's too bad they couldn't make him pay for the hotels, meals, misconnect time etc. A little over $9,000 isn't a deterrent to most people, but when you see the airline charging a few hundred thousand, people might actually grow up and be a little more respectful in the airport and airplane.
for "most people" $9k and $9M are the same thing, they're gonna default on it either way.
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Old Jul 11, 18, 7:57 am
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Originally Posted by pvn View Post
for "most people" $9k and $9M are the same thing, they're gonna default on it either way.
but 9k is 1/25th of 250k, thus it should be easy for most.
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Old Jul 11, 18, 8:09 am
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Will this count towards his MQD?
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Old Jul 11, 18, 8:11 am
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Is this PWM eligible? If paid via Delta Amex CC, would this qualify for 2x miles?
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Old Jul 11, 18, 8:33 am
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This was a restitution order as part of a federal criminal judgment. The judgment stands for 20 years. Even if one does not have that much money, all it takes is a relative dying and leaving $10K and that money is gone. You would be surprised at how much restitution is actually collected.
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all it takes is a relative dying and leaving $10K
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it happens to most people two or three times a year
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Old Jul 11, 18, 9:03 am
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Originally Posted by pvn View Post
it happens to most people two or three times a year
Either way, I doubt this person is penniless. Generally speaking people in poverty aren't flying transcons. It may be hard to believe but 15-20% of the adult US population have never taken a flight (at least per a study back in 2003 - may be slightly dated now). I would imagine that there is a strong correlation to long term poverty to that percentage.
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Old Jul 11, 18, 9:23 am
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I think the issue is two fold:

First: $9K is no where near the amount of what a diversion costs DL. It probably doesn't even account for the extra fuel much less everything else

Second: People who can't behave themselves on planes are a special breed. The fine could be $9M, plus 1Y in jail, plus a lifetime air travel ban, plus their dog gets shot into the sun, but it's likely to make very little difference. Rationally it makes sense that it would be a deterrent, but it's an inherently irrational act. And there in lies the problem.
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Old Jul 11, 18, 9:35 am
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Originally Posted by HWGeeks View Post
Will this count towards his MQD?
Ok, that was funny! 👍
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Originally Posted by Often1 View Post
all it takes is a relative dying
If that's all it takes then I'm sure we'll see an uptick in diversions.

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Old Jul 11, 18, 10:24 am
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Well, as the sentencing date has not been set yet he MIGHT want to consider quickly paying up to reduce the likelyhood of jail time in addition to another $5K.
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