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hts Jul 9, 2018 2:33 pm

Any Austin (AUS)-based former AA EP switch to Delta?
 
I live in Austin and I'm AA EP (and formerly USAir Chairmans when we lived in Phx and before that UA 1K when we lived in Nova).

In any event, I'm not a huge fan of AA, but really don't see a better alternative worth switching to. I'm not sure if I'ever flown Delta before.

And then I read the recent article about Delta reconfiguring its 777 fleet and thought--now there's an airline that appears to put its clients before its bottom line--how refreshing.

So I'm just wondering if any current Austin-based former AA EP's who have made the transition to Delta (I assume I could qualify for a status match) could share their experiences with me, especially with Delta opening up a club in ATX next spring (that alone would save me $450 as I can no longer expense club fees). Is the in-flight experience any different than AA's? How about mileage redemptions?

100% of my business travel is domestic (so living in ATX now I get there on segments, not miles unfortunately) and 100% of my mileage redemptions are international (usually Europe). I'm such a lowly EP that I probably only get upgraded to FC approx. 50% of the time (I'm often #15-#20 on the upgrade standby list), so the service in coach service is equally, if not more, important to me than FC since that's where I spend at least 1/2 my time these days.

MSPeconomist Jul 9, 2018 2:38 pm


Originally Posted by hts (Post 29955551)
I live in Austin and I'm AA EP (and formerly USAir Chairmans when we lived in Phx and before that UA 1K when we lived in Nova).

In any event, I'm not a huge fan of AA, but really don't see a better alternative worth switching to. I'm not sure if I'ever flown Delta before.

And then I read the recent article about Delta reconfiguring its 777 fleet and thought--now there's an airline that appears to put its clients before its bottom line--how refreshing.

So I'm just wondering if any current Austin-based former AA EP's who have made the transition to Delta (I assume I could qualify for a status match) could share their experiences with me, especially with Delta opening up a club in ATX next spring (that alone would save me $450 as I can no longer expense club fees). Is the in-flight experience any different than AA's? How about mileage redemptions?

100% of my business travel is domestic (so living in ATX now I get there on segments, not miles unfortunately) and 100% of my mileage redemptions are international (usually Europe). I'm such a lowly EP that I probably only get upgraded to FC approx. 50% of the time (I'm often #15-#20 on the upgrade standby list), so the service in coach service is equally, if not more, important to me than FC since that's where I spend at least 1/2 my time these days.

What is ATX? Do you mean AUS?

hts Jul 9, 2018 2:45 pm

Yes, AUS is the airport code. Locals tend to refer to it as ATX (the city, not the airport code) -- sorry.

elperro Jul 9, 2018 2:47 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 29955568)
What is ATX? Do you mean AUS?

Uhm, yeah. Read the post you quoted a bit more carefully. ;)

I'm also an ATX-based flyer and also am curious. Been flying AA exclusively but now trying UA since I am tired of renting a car (work in LNK but been flying to OMA).

3Cforme Jul 9, 2018 3:31 pm


Originally Posted by hts (Post 29955551)
How about mileage redemptions?

Delta has been using married segment availability on awards since November 2014. You might be frustrated getting from AUS to an international gateway. (Unless you were just thinking Aeromexico!) Delta does have 20+ carriers available for booking online in contrast with AA's eight, so in that regard award bookings are easier.

Not speaking to the specifics of your destinations, Delta will get you more AVOD, more 2Ku satellite wifi, fewer CR2/E145 single-class planes. You'll find better on-time performance, fewer cancellations, and quicker and more reliable baggage handling.

I would look at the networks very carefully for one's own flying patterns. Delta has 8x to ATL tomorrow while AA has 11x to DFW; if you're headed west Delta can't match AA.

kop84 Jul 9, 2018 3:43 pm


Originally Posted by 3Cforme (Post 29955804)
Delta has been using married segment availability on awards since November 2014. You might be frustrated getting from AUS to an international gateway. (Unless you were just thinking Aeromexico!) Delta does have 20+ carriers available for booking online in contrast with AA's eight, so in that regard award bookings are easier.

Not speaking to the specifics of your destinations, Delta will get you more AVOD, more 2Ku satellite wifi, fewer CR2/E145 single-class planes. You'll find better on-time performance, fewer cancellations, and quicker and more reliable baggage handling.

I would look at the networks very carefully for one's own flying patterns. Delta has 8x to ATL tomorrow while AA has 11x to DFW; if you're headed west Delta can't match AA.

DL offers x3 to LAX, x1 to SEA, and x3 to SLC
AA offers x4 to LAX and x4 to PHX
UA offers x5 to DEN, x5 to SFO, x2 to LAX

I know one can back track some to DFW or IAH and have many more options, but just looking a flights headed west, UA has the edge while AA/DL are even, but DL offers one more destination.

But DL is getting more gates at AUS, who knows what else will be added.

indufan Jul 9, 2018 4:19 pm


Originally Posted by hts (Post 29955605)
Locals tend to refer to it as ATX (the city, not the airport code) -- sorry.

Interesting. I have been to Austin a lot and never heard anyone ever refer to it as ATX. Is that encouraged by some quasi official body?

elperro Jul 9, 2018 4:30 pm


Originally Posted by kop84 (Post 29955851)
DL offers x3 to LAX, x1 to SEA, and x3 to SLC
AA offers x4 to LAX and x4 to PHX
UA offers x5 to DEN, x5 to SFO, x2 to LAX

I know one can back track some to DFW or IAH and have many more options, but just looking a flights headed west, UA has the edge while AA/DL are even, but DL offers one more destination.

But DL is getting more gates at AUS, who knows what else will be added.

I would include DFW in any westbound connection options on AA and possibly IAH on UA. Just MHO.

3Cforme Jul 9, 2018 4:38 pm


Originally Posted by elperro (Post 29956038)
I would include DFW in any westbound connection options on AA...

So would I. DFW isn't really backtracking when westbound.

ATOBTTR Jul 9, 2018 5:09 pm


Originally Posted by kop84 (Post 29955851)
DL offers x3 to LAX, x1 to SEA, and x3 to SLC
AA offers x4 to LAX and x4 to PHX
UA offers x5 to DEN, x5 to SFO, x2 to LAX

I know one can back track some to DFW or IAH and have many more options, but just looking a flights headed west, UA has the edge while AA/DL are even, but DL offers one more destination.

But DL is getting more gates at AUS, who knows what else will be added.

I wouldn't call going from DFW "backtracking" when going out West, especially to Arizona and Southern California. One ends up flying way north to get to SLC only to have to fly back down South
To San Diego, DFW is way more convenient than SLC:
AUS-SLC-SAN: 1,711 miles
AUS-DFW-SAN: 1,361 miles
To San Francisco, it's a wash:
AUS-SLC-SFO: 1,684 miles
AUS-DFW-SFO: 1,654 miles (
Even for Pacific Northwest destinations, DFW isn't out of the way over other hubs as to Portland it's about a wash as well:
AUS-SLC-PDX: 1,715 miles
AUS-DFW-PDX: 1,806 miles
The minimal difference there means one's connection times really play into the equation, plus factoring in the options available via PHX and LAX. The other factor is the "insurance" all those flights to DFW provide with a ton of back-up options which DL doesn't have at AUS, unless one really backtracks to ATL.

jinglish Jul 9, 2018 6:14 pm


Originally Posted by indufan (Post 29955995)
Interesting. I have been to Austin a lot and never heard anyone ever refer to it as ATX. Is that encouraged by some quasi official body?

I've seen it used a lot in Tinder bios, at least.

remyontheroad Jul 9, 2018 7:41 pm

Hahaha
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Originally Posted by hts (Post 29955551)
And then I read the recent article about Delta reconfiguring its 777 fleet and thought--now there's an airline that appears to put its clients before its bottom line--how refreshing.


MarkCron Jul 9, 2018 7:44 pm

I think you'll like Delta. Can you elaborate a little on how DL opening a lounge will save you $450? I think you may have an expectation that is not reality (or maybe I am missing something).

readywhenyouare Jul 9, 2018 7:47 pm

I've never heard of ATX either. What is the reasoning behind it? It's not like there is another well known city named Austin to confuse it with. Sounds like people just wanting to be difficult.

hts Jul 9, 2018 7:58 pm

Don't Delta's highest tier elites get a comp annual pass to their lounges? I believe it's just for the individual, so it may have less value than my Admirals Club membership that allows me to bring in guests, co-workers, family, etc.


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