What Is Up With ATL Lately?
#17
Join Date: May 2015
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The last mainline issue I had was an MD88 that went mechanical. Got a new plane in 30 minutes, only a short delay overall with padding.
RJ ops are often a mess, but have gotten better since DL booted ExpressJet.
RJ ops are often a mess, but have gotten better since DL booted ExpressJet.
#18
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I have also had to wait for flight attendants to arrive several times recently. Why don't they drive them from gate to gate if they are late arriving? If they come into E and need to leave from A then you are talking a good 15-20 minutes for them to get there.
#19
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#20
Join Date: Apr 2002
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On Wed. 6/27 my flight to Brussels was about 1.5 hours late. There weren't really "storms" while I was leaving (around 6); it was raining lightly, but heavily overcast with thick, dark clouds. But just the presence of that unsettled weather caused a huge backup, evidently because they could only fly in/out in specific directions due to the clouds/wind. We'd already been lined up for about 20 minutes when the pilot announced there were about 25 planes ahead of us. Got to Brussels about 1.5 hours past schedule (OK by me, since I knew my hotel wouldn't have a room ready anyhow.)
#21
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*Mosey along is another description, or even dwaddle; some may prefer lollygag as the descriptive term. Whatever you call it, it's painfully frustrating to watch as the further delay means that one will miss the last connection of the night if the rest of the crew don't time out first.
#22
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: STL
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Or better yet, try to keep the crew on the same plane throughout the day, so that one delayed flight doesn't delay three more later in the day (one for plane, one for pilots, and one for flight attendants).
#23
Join Date: May 2010
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It's been this way for years. Atlanta ground ops is a weak link in Delta's system. Thrown in any issue. (Storm, early arrival, random Tuesday etc...) and expect chaos.
And don't expect the jetway driver to have a clue. (Hint. The exit door is not directly in front of the wing. That's the emergency exit).
And don't expect the jetway driver to have a clue. (Hint. The exit door is not directly in front of the wing. That's the emergency exit).
#24
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In response to post #22 above:
That's the way many RJ crews are scheduled.
BTW, NZ schedules pilots and FAs as a unit, so that the team stays together for an entire multiday trip. On most other carriers, crew are essentially scheduled for each leg individually. Many PMNW TPAC schedules had the purser and a single USA based FA "chaser" do a rather extended trip to Asia involving one or more intraAsia RTs from NRT (where local FAs filled the rest of the cabin crew positions), while the remainder of the TPAC FAs did their rest and returned to the USA on the next day they were eligible to fly TPAC.
That's the way many RJ crews are scheduled.
BTW, NZ schedules pilots and FAs as a unit, so that the team stays together for an entire multiday trip. On most other carriers, crew are essentially scheduled for each leg individually. Many PMNW TPAC schedules had the purser and a single USA based FA "chaser" do a rather extended trip to Asia involving one or more intraAsia RTs from NRT (where local FAs filled the rest of the cabin crew positions), while the remainder of the TPAC FAs did their rest and returned to the USA on the next day they were eligible to fly TPAC.
#25
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I'm in ATL twice a week. Only once (that I remember) in the last six months I had to wait 10 minutes for a plane to exit the gate due to a recently lifted ground stop. Otherwise - zero of the type of issues OP cites. So that's something like 1 out of 50. Clearly we are on opposite ends of some probability distribution.
#26
Join Date: Nov 2003
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ATL is the busiest airport in the world. DL alone has over 1,000 flights a day. Of course it's going to be a bit rough when weather hits during evening rush. That said, I fly from ORD and through CLT a lot and I can assure you that they are not better. And, in the case of AA, they just wind up cancelling a boat load of flights on the regional feeders to get back on track faster. Personally, I'd rather endure the delay and complete my flights than fuss with cancellations that may leave me stranded.
#28
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On Wed. 6/27 my flight to Brussels was about 1.5 hours late. There weren't really "storms" while I was leaving (around 6); it was raining lightly, but heavily overcast with thick, dark clouds. But just the presence of that unsettled weather caused a huge backup, evidently because they could only fly in/out in specific directions due to the clouds/wind. We'd already been lined up for about 20 minutes when the pilot announced there were about 25 planes ahead of us. Got to Brussels about 1.5 hours past schedule (OK by me, since I knew my hotel wouldn't have a room ready anyhow.)
#29
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: West of CLE
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What appeared to be going on at ATL was a massive line of thunderstorms moved into the Atlanta area, and then stopped moving, becoming stationary for a few hours.
At STL, as the departure time for the ATL flight kept getting pushed back and back and back, my client and I were eating dinner at Lombardo's restaurant in the Drury Inn across I-70 from Lambert Field, and we watched an impressive thunderstorm come in from the northwest. While this was going on I got rebooked on the westbound itinerary I described above. He dropped me off at the terminal around 1800; there was intermittent heavy rain, but also local weather radar depicted a tornado, and there was extremely impressive lightning in the area. The STL airport authority closed the ramp, as their policy is not to let workers out on the ramp if lightning is within 3 miles of the airport. Our inbound flight from SLC was left to sit on the tarmac maybe 50 feet from the jetbridge until the ramp was finally opened around 1930.
It was hell on wheels last night; I did manage to score the last upgrade seat on the STL-SLC, but was #3 for 0 seats on the JFK flight (I originally was booked on one of the two SLC-ATL redeyes, but that plane was hours late leaving ATL, and I would not have made my ATL-IAD connection at 0725 Friday morning). What a mess.
#30
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Delta does this during IROPs. Crew (pilots/FAs) are kept on the same aircraft as the day progresses to minimize crew connections and ensure there's a crew with the aircraft.