Have 70K Mile Delta One O/W TATL Awards Quietly Disappeared???
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When was the last time you did this? The Wiki in the thread you point to even says that you'll be charged the EU origination fee. Can you point to something specific that says this is policy? I ask because what you state flies in the face of what every post in this forum says. The fee is based on the origin of the ticket. Living in the US has zero to do with it.
It's pretty basic, and logical. The ticket is actually RT, but booked as two OWs for whatever reason (331 day, fluctuating award availability, etc.). Call delta, have it converted/coded/reissued as RT, and the EU-Origin fee isn't applicable.
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I've also noticed sometime in the last week that MSP-HND is now 40K in Y, previously was 35K. Not sure if there was another thread on this, but found it noticeable. There is still fantastic Y availability on this flight, but it has increased 10K RT. D1 appears to be 90K OW.
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I have an sdf atl dub one way Aug 1st for 50000. Bought 1 month ago for Aug 1. Then a week later I booked dub atl sdf aug 5th for 50000. I tried to get the diamond desk to reissue the 2 one ways as a RT to get the refund of the taxes but I was told that the 50000 seats would have to be available and they are not. I plan on hula tomorrow.
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I have an sdf atl dub one way Aug 1st for 50000. Bought 1 month ago for Aug 1. Then a week later I booked dub atl sdf aug 5th for 50000. I tried to get the diamond desk to reissue the 2 one ways as a RT to get the refund of the taxes but I was told that the 50000 seats would have to be available and they are not. I plan on hula tomorrow.
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I have an sdf atl dub one way Aug 1st for 50000. Bought 1 month ago for Aug 1. Then a week later I booked dub atl sdf aug 5th for 50000. I tried to get the diamond desk to reissue the 2 one ways as a RT to get the refund of the taxes but I was told that the 50000 seats would have to be available and they are not. I plan on hula tomorrow.
The process for last two years requires space be available even if not changing the flight. Basically awards on DL metal are treated just like paid tickets. When rebooking you're doing it from scratch at then current rates. I know ATLlawyer feels otherwise, but i have yet to see one case showing he's correct vs the multitude of cases showing that he's incorrect.
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The process for last two years requires space be available even if not changing the flight. Basically awards on DL metal are treated just like paid tickets. When rebooking you're doing it from scratch at then current rates. I know ATLlawyer feels otherwise, but i have yet to see one case showing he's correct vs the multitude of cases showing that he's incorrect.
Having two OWs booked, and calling after the fact to have them re-coded is different, and YMMV. I only have experience doing this AT BOOKING of the return. (This is consistent with what you are saying btw--I'm not asking to re-issue the original ticket, although sometimes this is their solution, I am asking them to correctly price the return since it's not EU-origin.)
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This may have been the case at one time, before awards were treated like paid tickets when modifying. However I've looked in the forum and everyone says the same thing. If you're ticket starts in EU you pay it. Would make no sense to refund it. Otherwise people would book a ticket to EU, get refunded, and cancel.
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Related to my OP, and, the current discussion about repricing of award ticket mileage rates when itineraries are changed . . . . .
The reason I posted this thread initially was, I had an open jaw booked for a trip in August that I booked months in advance:
PIT/ZAG 70K in J
TXL/PIT 70K in J
13 day trip
Now that it's nearly time to go, I can't take a 13 day trip, so, I was trying to do a similar trip, but much shorter. So, I was hunting for 140K round trips. I couldn't find anything that worked, so, I called - TWICE - to inquire as to what would happen to my current reservation if I just canceled the return flights, and kept the departing flights. <I found that United doesn't seem to have the Europe originating surcharge that DL has, so I was thinking to book the return with UA miles>.
Anyway, BOTH DM agents told me that if I canceled my 70K return flights, and kept my original 70K departing flights, the entire one-way reservation from PIT/ZAG repriced at 280K MILES!
The reason I posted this thread initially was, I had an open jaw booked for a trip in August that I booked months in advance:
PIT/ZAG 70K in J
TXL/PIT 70K in J
13 day trip
Now that it's nearly time to go, I can't take a 13 day trip, so, I was trying to do a similar trip, but much shorter. So, I was hunting for 140K round trips. I couldn't find anything that worked, so, I called - TWICE - to inquire as to what would happen to my current reservation if I just canceled the return flights, and kept the departing flights. <I found that United doesn't seem to have the Europe originating surcharge that DL has, so I was thinking to book the return with UA miles>.
Anyway, BOTH DM agents told me that if I canceled my 70K return flights, and kept my original 70K departing flights, the entire one-way reservation from PIT/ZAG repriced at 280K MILES!
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Related to my OP, and, the current discussion about repricing of award ticket mileage rates when itineraries are changed . . . . .
The reason I posted this thread initially was, I had an open jaw booked for a trip in August that I booked months in advance:
PIT/ZAG 70K in J
TXL/PIT 70K in J
13 day trip
Now that it's nearly time to go, I can't take a 13 day trip, so, I was trying to do a similar trip, but much shorter. So, I was hunting for 140K round trips. I couldn't find anything that worked, so, I called - TWICE - to inquire as to what would happen to my current reservation if I just canceled the return flights, and kept the departing flights. <I found that United doesn't seem to have the Europe originating surcharge that DL has, so I was thinking to book the return with UA miles>.
Anyway, BOTH DM agents told me that if I canceled my 70K return flights, and kept my original 70K departing flights, the entire one-way reservation from PIT/ZAG repriced at 280K MILES!
The reason I posted this thread initially was, I had an open jaw booked for a trip in August that I booked months in advance:
PIT/ZAG 70K in J
TXL/PIT 70K in J
13 day trip
Now that it's nearly time to go, I can't take a 13 day trip, so, I was trying to do a similar trip, but much shorter. So, I was hunting for 140K round trips. I couldn't find anything that worked, so, I called - TWICE - to inquire as to what would happen to my current reservation if I just canceled the return flights, and kept the departing flights. <I found that United doesn't seem to have the Europe originating surcharge that DL has, so I was thinking to book the return with UA miles>.
Anyway, BOTH DM agents told me that if I canceled my 70K return flights, and kept my original 70K departing flights, the entire one-way reservation from PIT/ZAG repriced at 280K MILES!
I wonder what would happen if you change return after flying the outbound
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If I would've booked PIT/ZAG & TXL/PIT on separate reservations, the return trip would have had something like a $200+ish Europe originating surcharge!
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Related to my OP, and, the current discussion about repricing of award ticket mileage rates when itineraries are changed . . . . .
The reason I posted this thread initially was, I had an open jaw booked for a trip in August that I booked months in advance:
PIT/ZAG 70K in J
TXL/PIT 70K in J
13 day trip
Now that it's nearly time to go, I can't take a 13 day trip, so, I was trying to do a similar trip, but much shorter. So, I was hunting for 140K round trips. I couldn't find anything that worked, so, I called - TWICE - to inquire as to what would happen to my current reservation if I just canceled the return flights, and kept the departing flights. <I found that United doesn't seem to have the Europe originating surcharge that DL has, so I was thinking to book the return with UA miles>.
Anyway, BOTH DM agents told me that if I canceled my 70K return flights, and kept my original 70K departing flights, the entire one-way reservation from PIT/ZAG repriced at 280K MILES!
The reason I posted this thread initially was, I had an open jaw booked for a trip in August that I booked months in advance:
PIT/ZAG 70K in J
TXL/PIT 70K in J
13 day trip
Now that it's nearly time to go, I can't take a 13 day trip, so, I was trying to do a similar trip, but much shorter. So, I was hunting for 140K round trips. I couldn't find anything that worked, so, I called - TWICE - to inquire as to what would happen to my current reservation if I just canceled the return flights, and kept the departing flights. <I found that United doesn't seem to have the Europe originating surcharge that DL has, so I was thinking to book the return with UA miles>.
Anyway, BOTH DM agents told me that if I canceled my 70K return flights, and kept my original 70K departing flights, the entire one-way reservation from PIT/ZAG repriced at 280K MILES!
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However part of the high repricing is because the outbound is being repriced also. Fly the outbound and then change the return. No repricing happens to the already flown outbound.
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well, not according to some posters in this thread - other lesson learned, call in to book the return, and surcharge will not be charged