AUS will become a Delta Focus City
#17
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 33
So excited about these developments, having moved here ~3 yrs ago. In that time DL has gone from only the major hubs, to now with the CVG readd, serving every domestic hub and focus city (IND upthread aside which isn't formally acknowledged in route maps, etc). Added RDU, BOS, SEA, and CVG. MEX if you count AM. Event-specific service to AMS and LAS.
I know most of the gate agents by name at this point flying week-in, week-out, and they're awesome. One has been there for 20+ years and knows the former station manager, clued me into the CVG add before it happened, and hinted that PDX was highly likely. SFO is under consideration for the premium tech/tech connection, but I feel like that route is covered 5x over, if not more.
I also heard they'll get 5 gates dedicated of the 9 in the expansion, and maybe a shared one with CBP for int'l arrivals. Right now they're sharing 3A (and 3?) with Frontier which crams 31 flight destinations into those gates, and then I believe 2 with BA for the daily evening to LHR. Exclusive use of 4, 5, and 6. I would love to know if someone could tabulate frequency and from there could extrapolate how much more frequency/routes could be served daily with that additional space.
Although I would LOVE a one stop TPAC connection, which would have to be at ICN at this point, I just don't see sufficient demand, and also no 787, so they wouldn't have the right planes, it's juuuust out of range for the 767. Womp womp. Same thing I believe has been discussed for TATL, but ideally it'd be KL/AF to AMS/CDG (previous thread centered on AF+CDG being a better bet), KE to ICN, both on 787s.
As much as I'd love the intra-regional flights to happen, I just don't know if DL can spin up sufficient nearby demand, esp. with SW preeminence in the market. I would love service to MSY, LIT, HOU/IAH, DAL/DFW, MCI, OKC, DEN (very selfishly), ABQ, PHX, ELP going counter-clockwise. These are all flights I currently take SW on out of necessity because all of Delta's hubs are absurdly out of the way.
I know most of the gate agents by name at this point flying week-in, week-out, and they're awesome. One has been there for 20+ years and knows the former station manager, clued me into the CVG add before it happened, and hinted that PDX was highly likely. SFO is under consideration for the premium tech/tech connection, but I feel like that route is covered 5x over, if not more.
I also heard they'll get 5 gates dedicated of the 9 in the expansion, and maybe a shared one with CBP for int'l arrivals. Right now they're sharing 3A (and 3?) with Frontier which crams 31 flight destinations into those gates, and then I believe 2 with BA for the daily evening to LHR. Exclusive use of 4, 5, and 6. I would love to know if someone could tabulate frequency and from there could extrapolate how much more frequency/routes could be served daily with that additional space.
Although I would LOVE a one stop TPAC connection, which would have to be at ICN at this point, I just don't see sufficient demand, and also no 787, so they wouldn't have the right planes, it's juuuust out of range for the 767. Womp womp. Same thing I believe has been discussed for TATL, but ideally it'd be KL/AF to AMS/CDG (previous thread centered on AF+CDG being a better bet), KE to ICN, both on 787s.
As much as I'd love the intra-regional flights to happen, I just don't know if DL can spin up sufficient nearby demand, esp. with SW preeminence in the market. I would love service to MSY, LIT, HOU/IAH, DAL/DFW, MCI, OKC, DEN (very selfishly), ABQ, PHX, ELP going counter-clockwise. These are all flights I currently take SW on out of necessity because all of Delta's hubs are absurdly out of the way.
#18
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: AUS
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#19
Join Date: Apr 2017
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Completely crazy interesting thought.... what if they simply added Via Air as a regional out of Austin and took all of those routes over / added to them to get the necessary frequency? They'd have to run a shuttle to the south terminal OR build out a new satellite terminal, which is a VERY interesting idea.
So excited about these developments, having moved here ~3 yrs ago. In that time DL has gone from only the major hubs, to now with the CVG readd, serving every domestic hub and focus city (IND upthread aside which isn't formally acknowledged in route maps, etc). Added RDU, BOS, SEA, and CVG. MEX if you count AM. Event-specific service to AMS and LAS.
I know most of the gate agents by name at this point flying week-in, week-out, and they're awesome. One has been there for 20+ years and knows the former station manager, clued me into the CVG add before it happened, and hinted that PDX was highly likely. SFO is under consideration for the premium tech/tech connection, but I feel like that route is covered 5x over, if not more.
I also heard they'll get 5 gates dedicated of the 9 in the expansion, and maybe a shared one with CBP for int'l arrivals. Right now they're sharing 3A (and 3?) with Frontier which crams 31 flight destinations into those gates, and then I believe 2 with BA for the daily evening to LHR. Exclusive use of 4, 5, and 6. I would love to know if someone could tabulate frequency and from there could extrapolate how much more frequency/routes could be served daily with that additional space.
Although I would LOVE a one stop TPAC connection, which would have to be at ICN at this point, I just don't see sufficient demand, and also no 787, so they wouldn't have the right planes, it's juuuust out of range for the 767. Womp womp. Same thing I believe has been discussed for TATL, but ideally it'd be KL/AF to AMS/CDG (previous thread centered on AF+CDG being a better bet), KE to ICN, both on 787s.
As much as I'd love the intra-regional flights to happen, I just don't know if DL can spin up sufficient nearby demand, esp. with SW preeminence in the market. I would love service to MSY, LIT, HOU/IAH, DAL/DFW, MCI, OKC, DEN (very selfishly), ABQ, PHX, ELP going counter-clockwise. These are all flights I currently take SW on out of necessity because all of Delta's hubs are absurdly out of the way.
I know most of the gate agents by name at this point flying week-in, week-out, and they're awesome. One has been there for 20+ years and knows the former station manager, clued me into the CVG add before it happened, and hinted that PDX was highly likely. SFO is under consideration for the premium tech/tech connection, but I feel like that route is covered 5x over, if not more.
I also heard they'll get 5 gates dedicated of the 9 in the expansion, and maybe a shared one with CBP for int'l arrivals. Right now they're sharing 3A (and 3?) with Frontier which crams 31 flight destinations into those gates, and then I believe 2 with BA for the daily evening to LHR. Exclusive use of 4, 5, and 6. I would love to know if someone could tabulate frequency and from there could extrapolate how much more frequency/routes could be served daily with that additional space.
Although I would LOVE a one stop TPAC connection, which would have to be at ICN at this point, I just don't see sufficient demand, and also no 787, so they wouldn't have the right planes, it's juuuust out of range for the 767. Womp womp. Same thing I believe has been discussed for TATL, but ideally it'd be KL/AF to AMS/CDG (previous thread centered on AF+CDG being a better bet), KE to ICN, both on 787s.
As much as I'd love the intra-regional flights to happen, I just don't know if DL can spin up sufficient nearby demand, esp. with SW preeminence in the market. I would love service to MSY, LIT, HOU/IAH, DAL/DFW, MCI, OKC, DEN (very selfishly), ABQ, PHX, ELP going counter-clockwise. These are all flights I currently take SW on out of necessity because all of Delta's hubs are absurdly out of the way.
#20
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 33
Completely crazy interesting thought.... what if they simply added Via Air as a regional out of Austin and took all of those routes over / added to them to get the necessary frequency? They'd have to run a shuttle to the south terminal OR build out a new satellite terminal, which is a VERY interesting idea.
ViaAir serves: AMA, BTR, LIT, OKC, SFB, TUS, TUL, seasonally BKG and HDN. So it'd definitely be a good number of those intra-regional markets I mentioned.
Delta certainly isn't a stranger to airport terminal shuttles...
Bordering on impossible but thought experiments are fun.
#21
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There is clearly demand considering each of those carriers announced their IND-AUS flights in the past year. O&D between IND and AUS literally doubled from 2016-2017, and by now the O&D should be around 150-200 PDEW so I wouldn't be worried if there is a market for daily service on this route.
#23
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Treasure Coast, FL
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This would make me lucky twice. I moved to SEA right around the time DL was expanding in SEA and got to take advantage of a few of the SEA promos as DL vied for market-share with AS. I’m now getting ready to move to the SAT area (will be living on the northeast side of the city) and may just have to put AUS as my preferred airport so I can get targeted for those promos if they start happening.
Even if you're in Universal City it's about 70 miles and 75 minutes to AUS. I couldn't imagine wanting to fly Delta to get targeted promos (are they even worth the headache) when a perfectly fine airport is 20 minutes away. To each their own of course.
#24
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 1
AUS/Delta
I always fly Delta out of AUS. I avoid SWA at all costs. Just wish Delta would have international flights from AUS and not have to go to Atlanta or Detroit first. I want AUS-CDG, I know I'm going to be waiting a long time and most likely will never happen. I'm thrilled about Delta Sky Club opening in 2019!
#25
Join Date: May 2015
Location: DCA
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I always fly Delta out of AUS. I avoid SWA at all costs. Just wish Delta would have international flights from AUS and not have to go to Atlanta or Detroit first. I want AUS-CDG, I know I'm going to be waiting a long time and most likely will never happen. I'm thrilled about Delta Sky Club opening in 2019!
#26
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Traffic between SAT and AUS is not so great and I-35 sucks to put it mildly. Unless some new route has popped up I am not aware of.
Even if you're in Universal City it's about 70 miles and 75 minutes to AUS. I couldn't imagine wanting to fly Delta to get targeted promos (are they even worth the headache) when a perfectly fine airport is 20 minutes away. To each their own of course.
Even if you're in Universal City it's about 70 miles and 75 minutes to AUS. I couldn't imagine wanting to fly Delta to get targeted promos (are they even worth the headache) when a perfectly fine airport is 20 minutes away. To each their own of course.
And of course it will depend on the promo too. Will I drive to AUS for 500 bonus miles? Probably not. Would I consider it if it was a double-MQM promo like SEA had. More likely to say "yes" to that. Of course there's a lot of "what if's" that could be entertained here and we don't even know if there will be any promos at all.
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#28
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Traffic between SAT and AUS is not so great and I-35 sucks to put it mildly. Unless some new route has popped up I am not aware of.
Even if you're in Universal City it's about 70 miles and 75 minutes to AUS. I couldn't imagine wanting to fly Delta to get targeted promos (are they even worth the headache) when a perfectly fine airport is 20 minutes away. To each their own of course.
Even if you're in Universal City it's about 70 miles and 75 minutes to AUS. I couldn't imagine wanting to fly Delta to get targeted promos (are they even worth the headache) when a perfectly fine airport is 20 minutes away. To each their own of course.
#29
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I fly to Austin monthly for a few days at a time for work, and a focus city out of AUS would be fantastic. AUS-CVG-LGA and AUS-BNA-DCA as one-stops to skirt the perimeters have virtually no extra mileage, and you could do them with the 717 and focus on the thru traffic with very tight turns. AUS-IND-LGA and AUS-RDU-DCA as thru trips add in a little more distance, but could still work with CR9 and suddenly you have 4x/day 1-stops to both LGA and DCA.
Add in a second weekday frequency to BOS and SEA, and add 4-5 more business cities key to Austin corporate accounts, serve LAS/ORD/MCO weekdays only when there are important conventions.
And that doesn't even start to do battle with Southwest on Texas cities for lobbyists and the like. HOU/DFW may be too tough to crack, but some of the other Texas cities at 350+ miles may be worth it.
Add in a second weekday frequency to BOS and SEA, and add 4-5 more business cities key to Austin corporate accounts, serve LAS/ORD/MCO weekdays only when there are important conventions.
And that doesn't even start to do battle with Southwest on Texas cities for lobbyists and the like. HOU/DFW may be too tough to crack, but some of the other Texas cities at 350+ miles may be worth it.