What (nonstop) route do you wish Delta would really have?
Jul 12, 2018, 7:42 am
#287
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DL had announced at least DAL MSP and I think DTW and maybe SLC. I believe they were even selling tickets for them too. But then UA sold their gates that DL had been leasing to WN for an astronomical amount of money. And DL has essentially been using squatters rights to keep their DAL/ATL going until the courts issue a final ruling.
Jul 12, 2018, 9:47 am
#288
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: CHI/MSP
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If you need to end/begin your journey in Tokyo, then MSP and LAX are designed for you. Otherwise, you are connecting at NRT for the handful of remaining onward flights DL has from NRT.
It'll stay this way for at least a few more years until DL can secure additional HND slots.
Jul 12, 2018, 9:53 am
#289
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For the remainder of Asia, once stalwart routes via a simple NRT connection are now left to be handled by partners, e.g. GUM, TPE, BKK, HKG -- one wonders if SIN and MNL are on the chopping block next, as the NRT hub (or its remnants) are not long for this world.
Jul 12, 2018, 9:59 am
#290
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DL had announced at least DAL MSP and I think DTW and maybe SLC. I believe they were even selling tickets for them too. But then UA sold their gates that DL had been leasing to WN for an astronomical amount of money. And DL has essentially been using squatters rights to keep their DAL/ATL going until the courts issue a final ruling.
https://news.delta.com/delta-plans-e...las-love-field
Jul 12, 2018, 2:03 pm
#292
Join Date: Aug 2017
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DL had announced at least DAL MSP and I think DTW and maybe SLC. I believe they were even selling tickets for them too. But then UA sold their gates that DL had been leasing to WN for an astronomical amount of money. And DL has essentially been using squatters rights to keep their DAL/ATL going until the courts issue a final ruling.
Wow I had no idea. Have only lived in Dallas and been on the road since 2015 so a touch before my time. WN treats Love Field like a child sometimes.
Love Field had 70 gates back in the day. Now it has 20. 18 of which are owned by WN. Just add 10 more gates and everyone can stop complaining.
Jul 12, 2018, 7:53 pm
#293
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Wow I had no idea. Have only lived in Dallas and been on the road since 2015 so a touch before my time. WN treats Love Field like a child sometimes.
Love Field had 70 gates back in the day. Now it has 20. 18 of which are owned by WN. Just add 10 more gates and everyone can stop complaining.
Love Field had 70 gates back in the day. Now it has 20. 18 of which are owned by WN. Just add 10 more gates and everyone can stop complaining.
Jul 13, 2018, 7:17 am
#294
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Jul 13, 2018, 11:23 am
#295
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DAL is not getting anymore gates without an agreement with all 5 parties involved in the WA removal, which will never happen. Hopefully with AS cutting DAL-LGA/DCA, they can just share one of their gates with DL and this whole fiasco can be over. I would love to see DL add more flights from DAL, but as long as AS is still at DAL, DL won’t have the gates to expand. Heck even if AS leaves DAL, I bet the DOJ and the City of Dallas won’t want to give the Gates to DL.
Jul 13, 2018, 7:43 pm
#296
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Tokyo
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Where are you flying that MSP-HND (or LAX-HND) does not satisfy your needs?
If you need to end/begin your journey in Tokyo, then MSP and LAX are designed for you. Otherwise, you are connecting at NRT for the handful of remaining onward flights DL has from NRT.
It'll stay this way for at least a few more years until DL can secure additional HND slots.
If you need to end/begin your journey in Tokyo, then MSP and LAX are designed for you. Otherwise, you are connecting at NRT for the handful of remaining onward flights DL has from NRT.
It'll stay this way for at least a few more years until DL can secure additional HND slots.
Jul 15, 2018, 9:45 pm
#297
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Jul 16, 2018, 1:18 pm
#298
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DAL is not getting anymore gates without an agreement with all 5 parties involved in the WA removal, which will never happen. Hopefully with AS cutting DAL-LGA/DCA, they can just share one of their gates with DL and this whole fiasco can be over. I would love to see DL add more flights from DAL, but as long as AS is still at DAL, DL won’t have the gates to expand. Heck even if AS leaves DAL, I bet the DOJ and the City of Dallas won’t want to give the Gates to DL.
Jul 17, 2018, 12:00 am
#299
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It can help establish case precedent. Thus giving DL a better hand if they get into a similar fight over gates.