Potential misconnect at CDG - will DL rebook on non-SkyTeam carrier?
Jun 2, 2018, 6:16 pm
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Potential misconnect at CDG - will DL rebook on non-SkyTeam carrier?
I am considering a flight from LAX-CDG-ATH. LAX-CDG is DL and CDG-ATH is AF. The connection is 75 minutes at CDG (only five minutes over the MCT based on what I'm seeing).
If I misconnect, would DL rebook me on the next available flight to ATH on any carrier, or would it have to be a SkyTeam carrier (i.e., AF)? The next available AF flight is eight hours later, but there is a non-SkyTeam flight that is only three hours later.
If I misconnect, would DL rebook me on the next available flight to ATH on any carrier, or would it have to be a SkyTeam carrier (i.e., AF)? The next available AF flight is eight hours later, but there is a non-SkyTeam flight that is only three hours later.
Jun 2, 2018, 6:20 pm
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I am considering a flight from LAX-CDG-ATH. LAX-CDG is DL and CDG-ATH is AF. The connection is 75 minutes at CDG (only five minutes over the MCT based on what I'm seeing).
If I misconnect, would DL rebook me on the next available flight to ATH on any carrier, or would it have to be a SkyTeam carrier (i.e., AF)? The next available AF flight is eight hours later, but there is a non-SkyTeam flight that is only three hours later.
If I misconnect, would DL rebook me on the next available flight to ATH on any carrier, or would it have to be a SkyTeam carrier (i.e., AF)? The next available AF flight is eight hours later, but there is a non-SkyTeam flight that is only three hours later.
Jun 2, 2018, 8:04 pm
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Apparently the DL flight from LAX to CDG is new service, beginning this month. So, no on time performance yet. Haven't connected at CDG in a very long time, so the 75 minute connection time makes me a little nervous.
Jun 2, 2018, 8:18 pm
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Whether it can happen at all will depend on whether DL has an interline agreement with the other carrier. You have not told us which carrier and flight you are thinking of, so need that information in the first instance.
While AF will handle the paperwork, it applies DL's policies when it acts as DL's agent. DL does give its agents the discretion to rebook OA -- noting the need for an interline agreement -- but, it is highly unlikely for an 8-hour delay, particularly when there are likely alternatives on AF through AMS.
While AF will handle the paperwork, it applies DL's policies when it acts as DL's agent. DL does give its agents the discretion to rebook OA -- noting the need for an interline agreement -- but, it is highly unlikely for an 8-hour delay, particularly when there are likely alternatives on AF through AMS.
Jun 3, 2018, 1:00 am
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Whether it can happen at all will depend on whether DL has an interline agreement with the other carrier. You have not told us which carrier and flight you are thinking of, so need that information in the first instance.
While AF will handle the paperwork, it applies DL's policies when it acts as DL's agent. DL does give its agents the discretion to rebook OA -- noting the need for an interline agreement -- but, it is highly unlikely for an 8-hour delay, particularly when there are likely alternatives on AF through AMS.
While AF will handle the paperwork, it applies DL's policies when it acts as DL's agent. DL does give its agents the discretion to rebook OA -- noting the need for an interline agreement -- but, it is highly unlikely for an 8-hour delay, particularly when there are likely alternatives on AF through AMS.
If I were to miss AF's scheduled flight, hopefully they put me on the next nonstop to ATH, operated by A3.
Thanks for your input.
Jun 3, 2018, 5:05 am
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Can you fly LAX-CDG with AF? You would then be entitled to EU261 comp which would make them more likely to put you on A3 to save them money.
If not it it looks like you’ll have a long wait at CDG - if that happens have a day in Paris instead of waiting at the airport.
If not it it looks like you’ll have a long wait at CDG - if that happens have a day in Paris instead of waiting at the airport.
Jun 3, 2018, 9:56 am
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Both DL and AF should interline with A3. IMO what's likely to happen in Paris if a DL to AF connection is missed would depend on status and fare class, although as someone pointed out upthread, being rebooked onto a nonpartner is more likely to happen if doing so should be cheaper than paying mandated EC261 compensation. A three or eight hour daytime delay doesn't matter much for duty of care, so the difference would be the mandatory delay compensation if there aren't extraordinary events such as weather, ATC, or strikes/work slowdowns/other union actions as a cause (or contributing factor as the airline is likely to argue the reason which is cheapest for them).
Also, as someone pointed out, taking an AF operated TATL flight would mean coverage under EC261 rules, but IMO OTOH there's a risk of an AF strike. Past data points suggest that longhaul flights are mostly maintained during strikes while the shorter flights are more at risk of cancellation, but YMMV and even flights that operate can experience delays.
If you're impacted by a strike, you're likely to be rebooked onto the first flight by any carrier which interlines and has space, which might not be the same day as there will be many other passengers also needing seats.
Also, as someone pointed out, taking an AF operated TATL flight would mean coverage under EC261 rules, but IMO OTOH there's a risk of an AF strike. Past data points suggest that longhaul flights are mostly maintained during strikes while the shorter flights are more at risk of cancellation, but YMMV and even flights that operate can experience delays.
If you're impacted by a strike, you're likely to be rebooked onto the first flight by any carrier which interlines and has space, which might not be the same day as there will be many other passengers also needing seats.
Jun 5, 2018, 9:20 am
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Thanks for all the input.
As I was considering the LAX-CDG-ATH routing on DL and AF, another business saver routing opened up.... LAX-AMS-ATH all on KL, so I grabbed that instead. The connection at AMS is 3 1/2 hours, so plenty of time (more than enough! LOL).
As I was considering the LAX-CDG-ATH routing on DL and AF, another business saver routing opened up.... LAX-AMS-ATH all on KL, so I grabbed that instead. The connection at AMS is 3 1/2 hours, so plenty of time (more than enough! LOL).
Jun 5, 2018, 10:07 am
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I'm glad OP got a schedule that you liked.
I'm not entirely familiar with EU regulations does anyone know what would happen if the LAX/CDG flight arrived on time or even early, but then the passenger is held up in customs for whatever reason. Would DL/AF be bound by the EU regulations on compensation in this case? Like say someone else on that same LAX/CDG flight even made that exact same connection. It's not the airlines fault. It may not even be the passengers fault if they get pulled for random extra screening. I'm not asking what DL/AF Would do, but more what are they obligated to do by EU regs.
I'm not entirely familiar with EU regulations does anyone know what would happen if the LAX/CDG flight arrived on time or even early, but then the passenger is held up in customs for whatever reason. Would DL/AF be bound by the EU regulations on compensation in this case? Like say someone else on that same LAX/CDG flight even made that exact same connection. It's not the airlines fault. It may not even be the passengers fault if they get pulled for random extra screening. I'm not asking what DL/AF Would do, but more what are they obligated to do by EU regs.
Jun 5, 2018, 10:34 am
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Come on. Delta employees don't always follow Delta policy. Expecting that an Air France worker at CDG (assuming they aren't on a workers' strike) will correctly apply a Delta policy is far-fetched.
Jun 5, 2018, 10:35 am
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