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Why are NYC -> TYO tix 2x the cost of NYC -> MNL tix which connect in TYO?

Why are NYC -> TYO tix 2x the cost of NYC -> MNL tix which connect in TYO?

Old Apr 22, 18, 6:11 pm
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Why are NYC -> TYO tix 2x the cost of NYC -> MNL tix which connect in TYO?

For the past few years I've traveled from NYC -> TYO in the late fall (Nov) and found tickets around $1200. They are usually $2000 in busier travel seasons. I am looking at tix now and they are all $2000 currently for November. Maybe they will drop significantly in price at some point? That is not my main question though. If I look at NYC -> MNL flights for the same dates which stopover in Tokyo (NRT) they are literally 1/2 the price ($1000). No idea why this is - but could I book a round trip NYC -> MNL, get off @ NRT on the way there and then book a 1-way ticket (which I can get for 17k points) from Tokyo to Manila to fly home from there? I assume to make this work I would have to do carry-on only. Would Delta flag this type of itinerary in advance, knowing I was skirting their weird double-price tickets for flights going through the same airport (and not even as far)?
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Old Apr 22, 18, 6:16 pm
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Once you don’t show for TYO-MNL segment, rest of ticket will be canceled
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Old Apr 22, 18, 6:18 pm
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Originally Posted by nystateofmind View Post
Once you don’t show for TYO-MNL segment, rest of ticket will be canceled
Oh I figured just remaining segment of outbound flight would be canceled. Return from Manila 10 days later would also get canceled?
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Old Apr 22, 18, 6:20 pm
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No, if you get off in NRT, they’ll cancel the remaining legs, including the return legs, of your ticket.

Fares are calculated origin to destination and NYC-TYO is seen as a different market than NYC-MNL. The connection in TYO is irrelevant.

What you can see is if there’s the ability to do a stopover in the MNL ticket. If so, you could do

NYC-TYO-stopover in TYO-MNL-TYO-NYC.

This may be cheaper than just the 2k ticket, plus you get some more miles out of it.
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Old Apr 22, 18, 6:20 pm
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Originally Posted by nycbb View Post
Oh I figured just remaining segment of outbound flight would be canceled. Return from Manila 10 days later would also get canceled?
If booked as a round trip yes. No show for one segment cancels everything else on the same reservation
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Old Apr 23, 18, 11:51 am
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To answer your subject question, the same reason an LGW-DTW-BWI is 1/2 the price of a DTW-BWI (being serviced by the same flight)... because they can, and people are willing to pay the price.
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Old Apr 23, 18, 12:30 pm
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I suspect the fares will drop some 2-3 months out.
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