Sat 4/14; Weather at MSP; 3-5" Snow; Winds 20-30 mph
Apr 15, 2018, 8:19 am
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I was supposed to be on a 10:30am to IAH connecting to Panama City. That was quickly canceled. We'll hope for better tomorrow. I took the earlier departure (7:45am) to give more room for error with the connection. Still not totally confident, but we'll see what tomorrow brings!
Apr 15, 2018, 8:22 am
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Blizzard warning is gone but a winter weather advisory has replaced it with another 3-5 inches snow coming today and per FlightAware, inbound flights are delayed an average of 4 hours and 53 minutes due to snow and ice. In other words, don’t try coming through here today and I’m not sure tomorrow is a good idea either.
Apr 15, 2018, 8:41 am
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My RAP->MSP->PHX flight just got canceled. Well, the RAP->MSP segment did for 0630 tomorrow. Rebooked at 5pm with a 45 minute layover in SLC. Not idea, but oh well. I booked the MSP layover for MQMs (same price) so I'm kind of bummed about that, and I was originally FC on CRJ900 but now I'm on a 200.... and losing an entire day home. Any chance DL will give me some MQMs? Or let me change my flight home to a day later (booked separately, unfortunately)
My *guess* is that DL is likely to be sympathetic and let you rebook the separate DL ticket to a day later, especially if you ask nicely and have elite status. You might need to HUCA. As others have said, ask for ORC later, but you won't be given "extra" MQMs, although DL might throw some RDMs at you for the inconvenience, even though they clearly aren't obligated to do so.
Apr 15, 2018, 8:56 am
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I hope they don't. I think it's important that pax really be clear about the difference between problems caused by the airline and problems out of their control.
Apr 15, 2018, 9:02 am
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Apr 15, 2018, 10:25 am
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You might not have a plane to get on because the inbound is delayed by weather, or because of a maintenance issue, both of those scenarios could be fixed by the airline having extra aircraft laying around at outstations, which is something they could quite easily do, but one of these is considered "under their control" and the other isn't.
Apr 15, 2018, 10:35 am
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I am stuck at MKE for the day. Overnight ice and several inches of snow have greatly slowed operations. I can hear flights leaving, but I don't think any DL flights have departed, even from the aircraft that were parked here overnight.
I have been auto rebooked through DTW in the morning, but I don't know if things will be back to normal by then. If the roads were decent, I would drive myself to ORD, but I am playing it safe for now.
I have been auto rebooked through DTW in the morning, but I don't know if things will be back to normal by then. If the roads were decent, I would drive myself to ORD, but I am playing it safe for now.
Apr 15, 2018, 10:46 am
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I was booked JAX-MSP Friday evening but then decided to fly back one day earlier on Thursday. 5 hours after I made the change weather waiver was issued. Delta sent me a $200 voucher to offset the change fee I was charged.
They were under no obligation to do so but felt it's a nice gesture.
They were under no obligation to do so but felt it's a nice gesture.
Apr 15, 2018, 11:41 am
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Here is the FAA update as of 12:40 pm central Sunday
- Due to WX / SNOW-ICE, departure traffic destined to Minneapolis-St Paul International/Wold-Chamberlain Airport, Minneapolis, MN (MSP) is currently experiencing delays averaging 4 hours and 53 minutes.
Apr 15, 2018, 11:51 am
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Well, it's still snowing and the snow is expected to continue through the very early morning hours. It's looking like the airport could get a total of five inches today by the time the snow ends, on top of the twelve inches yesterday at MSP (and sixteen in some nearby suburbs, with up to twenty-four inches in some pockets in the southwestern part of the state, where roads were closed, including long stretches of I-90).
BTW, this was the first time in several decades that Minneapolis itself has had an official blizzard warning.
Apparently 469 flights from MSP were cancelled yesterday and the airport hotels filled up quickly. However, at times it wouldn't have been easy to get from the airport to a hotel, although I didn't see any places in the immediate metro area where the road conditions were posted as "travel not advised."
BTW, this was the first time in several decades that Minneapolis itself has had an official blizzard warning.
Apparently 469 flights from MSP were cancelled yesterday and the airport hotels filled up quickly. However, at times it wouldn't have been easy to get from the airport to a hotel, although I didn't see any places in the immediate metro area where the road conditions were posted as "travel not advised."
Apr 15, 2018, 12:03 pm
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Most things we consider the "airlines fault" are also beyond their control. Most maintenance issues, for example, aren't caused because the aircraft has been neglected.
You might not have a plane to get on because the inbound is delayed by weather, or because of a maintenance issue, both of those scenarios could be fixed by the airline having extra aircraft laying around at outstations, which is something they could quite easily do, but one of these is considered "under their control" and the other isn't.
You might not have a plane to get on because the inbound is delayed by weather, or because of a maintenance issue, both of those scenarios could be fixed by the airline having extra aircraft laying around at outstations, which is something they could quite easily do, but one of these is considered "under their control" and the other isn't.
Apr 15, 2018, 12:35 pm
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Are there any reports of tarmac delays >3 hours? The DOT does have rules against that, including implementation of contingency plans by 'covered carriers' (Delta, SkyWest, and Endeavor included) and fines to discourage the practice.
Apr 15, 2018, 1:11 pm
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My *guess* is that DL is likely to be sympathetic and let you rebook the separate DL ticket to a day later, especially if you ask nicely and have elite status. You might need to HUCA. As others have said, ask for ORC later, but you won't be given "extra" MQMs, although DL might throw some RDMs at you for the inconvenience, even though they clearly aren't obligated to do so.
Minneapolis is moving, albeit it slowly, but they're moving.
Apr 15, 2018, 1:49 pm
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I called the DM line for an unrelated issue and was informed my wait to speak to an agent would be 34 minutes. Wow, I've never had a double digit wait on the DM line...