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DL 006 vs KLM 074 questions (Seats/GUC)

Old Apr 8, 18, 8:00 am
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DL 006 vs KLM 074 questions (Seats/GUC)

What is the latest pitfalls of booking a KL marketed flights from USA-Europe versus on DL marketed.

Here is my quick scenario. DL is coming back at 4300 "H fare" and KLM coming back for the same flights and routes at 2700 "K fare". Only difference is KLM flight numbers versus Delta flight numbers.

I think I fully understand that KLM Marketed flights will earn only 20% of distance flown versus actual dollar cost for the MQD for the over water segments from MSP-AMS.

Do I lose out on seats/Delta Comfort or GUC on the DL operated flights from MSP-AMS? I am not as concerned as AMS-DXB-AMS-BUD-AMS flights.

Seats and GUC are my biggest questions. I tried to search and really couldn't find anything.

thanks in advance as I try to catch up on all the latest changes.
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Old Apr 8, 18, 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by MNAudiS4 View Post
What is the latest pitfalls of booking a KL marketed flights from USA-Europe versus on DL marketed.

Here is my quick scenario. DL is coming back at 4300 "H fare" and KLM coming back for the same flights and routes at 2700 "K fare". Only difference is KLM flight numbers versus Delta flight numbers.

I think I fully understand that KLM Marketed flights will earn only 20% of distance flown versus actual dollar cost for the MQD for the over water segments from MSP-AMS.

Do I lose out on seats/Delta Comfort or GUC on the DL operated flights from MSP-AMS? I am not as concerned as AMS-DXB-AMS-BUD-AMS flights.

Seats and GUC are my biggest questions. I tried to search and really couldn't find anything.

thanks in advance as I try to catch up on all the latest changes.
GUC can only be used on KLM YB OR M fare class. On DL can be used on any except E.

C+ will be DoD upgrade if on KL coded flight. Advance upgrade can only be done if DL coded.
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Old Apr 8, 18, 9:26 am
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Oh that is brutal, no Delta comfort or GUC even as a delta diamond.
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Maybe this irrelevant, but could you be making a mistake in your search? Those flight numbers are not correct. The MSP-AMS flights are DL 160/162/164 and KL 0656.
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Old Apr 8, 18, 9:52 am
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Originally Posted by CarmenOM View Post
Maybe this irrelevant, but could you be making a mistake in your search? Those flight numbers are not correct. The MSP-AMS flights are DL 160/162/164 and KL 0656.
Think those are prices, not flight numbers.
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Old Apr 8, 18, 11:42 am
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Originally Posted by flyerCO View Post
Think those are prices, not flight numbers.
Iím talking about the thread title.
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Old Apr 8, 18, 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by CarmenOM View Post


Iím talking about the thread title.
Those are ticket stock numbers. All DL issued tickets start with 006 and KLM issued tickets 074.
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Old Apr 8, 18, 12:48 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO View Post
Those are ticket stock numbers. All DL issued tickets start with 006 and KLM issued tickets 074.
Duh! Slapping my head!
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Originally Posted by MNAudiS4 View Post
What is the latest pitfalls of booking a KL marketed flights from USA-Europe versus on DL marketed.
Here is my quick scenario. DL is coming back at 4300 "H fare" and KLM coming back for the same flights and routes at 2700 "K fare". Only difference is KLM flight numbers versus Delta flight numbers.
$4,300 for USA <-> Europe should be an expensive Z fare. I wonder what market has coach fares for $4,300!?
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Old Apr 8, 18, 6:31 pm
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Originally Posted by DJMeatBall View Post
$4,300 for USA <-> Europe should be an expensive Z fare. I wonder what market has coach fares for $4,300!?
Depending on the market, it could be an itinerary without a Saturday night stay, close in and/or during a peak period. Surprising that it only books into H, though, I'd expect a higher bucket. At least it's mileage upgrade eligible :P
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Old Apr 8, 18, 8:14 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO View Post
Those are ticket stock numbers. All DL issued tickets start with 006 and KLM issued tickets 074.
In terms of the OP's question though, ticketing stock doesn't matter. Marketing carrier does - so a KL coded, DL ticketed, DL operated flight would run into the same issues as a KL coded, KL ticketed, DL operated flight.
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Old Apr 8, 18, 8:20 pm
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Originally Posted by DJMeatBall View Post
$4,300 for USA <-> Europe should be an expensive Z fare. I wonder what market has coach fares for $4,300!?
It's MSP-AMS-DXB-AMS-BUD-AMS-MSP where AMS is just a connector

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Depending on the market, it could be an itinerary without a Saturday night stay, close in and/or during a peak period. Surprising that it only books into H, though, I'd expect a higher bucket. At least it's mileage upgrade eligible :P
It's now moved to H on the outbound MSP-DXB and M for the other two flights. I would not have a Saturday stay. Out on Sunday back on Friday.
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Originally Posted by DJMeatBall View Post
$4,300 for USA <-> Europe should be an expensive Z fare. I wonder what market has coach fares for $4,300!?
Not from MSP. It would be a very cheap Z fare.
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Old Apr 8, 18, 8:22 pm
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So the tough thing by booking KLM for 1700 less I lose on all ability to upgrade and get delta comfort.
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Originally Posted by TTT View Post
In terms of the OP's question though, ticketing stock doesn't matter. Marketing carrier does - so a KL coded, DL ticketed, DL operated flight would run into the same issues as a KL coded, KL ticketed, DL operated flight.
Correct. I was just replying to Carmen who was having a brain freeze and thought those were flight numbers.
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