WSJ Article “JFK Turf War”; Delta expansion plans, or not?
Mar 8, 2018, 7:38 am
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WSJ Article “JFK Turf War”; Delta expansion plans, or not?
Delta has no plans to expand T2, wants to expand T4 to the west.
https://apple.news/ANNTWGX8tTxqMW4h2paQrog
https://apple.news/ANNTWGX8tTxqMW4h2paQrog
Mar 8, 2018, 8:35 am
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Terminal 2 is an awful experience, I would much rather see T4 get expanded and a second SC added along with more gates for DL + SkyTeam partners. It's too bad AF and KE are part of T1 ownership, I would love to see T4 expand a lot and see all of JFK's partners move to a much bigger T4.
Maybe the long game is to expand T1 east and T4 west and connect T1, 2 and 4 post-security? That would be cool.
Maybe the long game is to expand T1 east and T4 west and connect T1, 2 and 4 post-security? That would be cool.
Mar 8, 2018, 9:49 am
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Terminal 2 is an awful experience, I would much rather see T4 get expanded and a second SC added along with more gates for DL + SkyTeam partners. It's too bad AF and KE are part of T1 ownership, I would love to see T4 expand a lot and see all of JFK's partners move to a much bigger T4.
Mar 8, 2018, 4:12 pm
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Mar 8, 2018, 4:27 pm
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Mar 8, 2018, 5:23 pm
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The Skyclubs are bigger in T4 (I think, haven't been in the T2 one in a while) but not sure that makes a difference.
Mar 8, 2018, 5:41 pm
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I see nothing special about T4 as it is ugly to me, is always overcrowded, and way too big. T2 may not be the nicest terminal in the world but the SC is never over crowded and all the gates are close to each other but not too close to each other where there is no room in the terminal area. (cough cough LAX T3)
Mar 8, 2018, 8:58 pm
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The only thing needed to fix T4 security is to increase staffing, as there are already something like 10 or 12 baggage x-ray lanes of which maybe 6 are ever open.
Well, and turning down the random secondary on the pre-check line so I don't get a pat down 25% of the time...
Well, and turning down the random secondary on the pre-check line so I don't get a pat down 25% of the time...
Mar 8, 2018, 9:31 pm
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Delta has made JFK a mess. They should have built an entirely new terminal like AA did. At least T2 and T3 were connected and it wasn't nearly as bad as the bus ride and long walk to T4. Not to mention T4 is completely uninspiring. Nothing but white walls and yellow signs as far as the eye can see. Delta should be ashamed at their appalling lack of effort and creativity.
Mar 8, 2018, 11:21 pm
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I really hope they don’t extend T-4 any further out. Is there something they could do in another direction?
As it is, the lack of any kind of moving walkway from the beginning of the Gates to the escalator down to baggage claim already sucks after a 5 hour flight from LAX that lands around midnight and seems to come in at/near the last gate. So It’s like a 10 minute walk already, encompassing 5 or so little sections of walkway with one or more out of service quite often, and then that final long walk to the escalator to baggage claim/air train.
As it is, the lack of any kind of moving walkway from the beginning of the Gates to the escalator down to baggage claim already sucks after a 5 hour flight from LAX that lands around midnight and seems to come in at/near the last gate. So It’s like a 10 minute walk already, encompassing 5 or so little sections of walkway with one or more out of service quite often, and then that final long walk to the escalator to baggage claim/air train.
Mar 9, 2018, 5:15 am
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Mar 9, 2018, 7:44 am
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I like terminal 2 for the reasons others have stated, but I also actually like the look of it. I think it's now the oldest working terminal at JFK, and while it's not nearly as beautiful as the terminal 3 Worldport was, it still gives a nod to the midcentury modern jet age aesthetic, even if it may be a bit brutalist, and it's certainly more interesting than t-4. I love the very high ceilings and tall windows overlooking the tarmac, the simple beams holding up the structure, and also the square decor in the ceiling. The Sky Club is also pretty decent for the terminal, though it can feel a bit dark.