Strange experience platinum clearing over diamond
Feb 26, 2018, 10:09 pm
#31
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You have always been able to upgrade a companion on separate reservation. All that changed is if on the same PNR, then the companion gets the higher status and can upgrade at the window. Before, they caused everyone to drop to lowest status, including none. However nothing changed for companions on separate PNR. They can only be done at airport DoD..
Feb 26, 2018, 11:21 pm
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I'm glad to know that is confirmed. When they announced the new companion policy of clearing at the higher level, there was a lot of speculation on FT that this mean that you had to be on the same pnr for any companion upgrade to clear. I also thought, but can't find anything to prove it, that DL had indicated as such.
Feb 27, 2018, 12:29 am
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No change for companions on separate PNR's as long as they are on revenue tickets. They can be added as a companion upgrade and will clear after all other Medallions. If they are on award or PWM tickets, they must be on the same PNR to clear (and will clear at the same priority level as the Medallion).
Feb 27, 2018, 7:13 am
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However, if two passengers are on the same PNR, they should be upgraded together or not at all. If only one upgrade seat is available, it's supposed to go to the next person on the list.
Feb 27, 2018, 9:27 am
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In general yes. I’ve had two gate agents proactively page me and ask. In both cases we had no shows so we both got the UG.
Feb 27, 2018, 2:31 pm
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SEXISM
prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex.
SEXUAL DISCRIMINATION
discrimination in employment and opportunity against a person (typically a woman) on grounds of sex.
MISOGYNY
dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.
Making a decision based solely on someone being "da wife", is actually the very definition of sexism. I'd hardly call this example something to get excited over, but treating someone differently based on sex, whether it is a positive, negative or neither for the "victim", is sexist. A bit of a stretch for misogyny, but again, you could say singling out a woman as "needing" the seat more to be kept happy is a form of misogyny, particularly if the man is deciding and dictating the plan.
prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex.
SEXUAL DISCRIMINATION
discrimination in employment and opportunity against a person (typically a woman) on grounds of sex.
MISOGYNY
dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.
Making a decision based solely on someone being "da wife", is actually the very definition of sexism. I'd hardly call this example something to get excited over, but treating someone differently based on sex, whether it is a positive, negative or neither for the "victim", is sexist. A bit of a stretch for misogyny, but again, you could say singling out a woman as "needing" the seat more to be kept happy is a form of misogyny, particularly if the man is deciding and dictating the plan.
This is getting way too OT, but I just can’t help myself from venturing a guess that you are not (yet) a parent, and therefore have not experienced how vastly more demanding motherhood is than fatherhood. Moms are deserving of a break. It has nothing to with “needing” anything more all else being equal, it is simply a function of how much more they have to put into their young. From the gestation process to the birthing process to breastfeeding to acting as the first line of emotional defense through puberty... sorry it ain’t even close.
For example, I am the the one who travels, and the one with status (Diamond). I would give the upgrade to my spouse as he does not travel much and would see it as a treat, plus is a good bit bigger than I physically and can benefit from the room.
However, that said, if someone opens a door or gestures to me to go first out of an elevator, I graciously go and say thank you. If my husband does something nice for me because he loves me, I would do the same. I also open a door and hold it for the person behind me regardless of their gender. Please don't assume all marriages are based either male or female as primary decisions, or confuse common courtesy with sexism/misogyny.
Back to the original poster, I would wait until T-24 and see who is higher on the list. When that happens, call in and have the CSR switch your seats so the higher in the list person has the aisle and the lower has the middle. A gate agent could do that for you too.
Feb 27, 2018, 6:09 pm
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I agree that's the way it should work, but I recall several reports here of people getting upgraded separately if they check-in separately when on the same PNR (rather than checking in both pax together at the same time).
Feb 27, 2018, 7:12 pm
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And to get back on topic, the clear solution to all this is of course WFBF.
Ok, really...figuring out who is higher on the UG list and then making sure Y seat assignments are where you want is the real answer. Or just tell the GA ahead of time that if only one of you is getting an UG, please give it to the person in the middle seat. GAs are usually happy to comply with those types of requests.