International connections at JFK
Jan 26, 2018, 3:26 am
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International connections at JFK
Will be making a connection at JFK from MXP-JFK-MSP. I know some airports have a new system where you don't see your bags at customs aside from a photo on a screen, is JFK up to speed on that? Our will I have to collect and drop my bags?
This is all on Delta, anyone know if it's likely to be all in the same terminal or if I'll have to change terminals
Also, if I pick up duty free at MXP and it's in a sealed duty free bag will the TSA accept that or make me check it?
This is all on Delta, anyone know if it's likely to be all in the same terminal or if I'll have to change terminals
Also, if I pick up duty free at MXP and it's in a sealed duty free bag will the TSA accept that or make me check it?
Jan 26, 2018, 10:41 am
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If your MXP-JFK is on DL (and not operated by AZ), then you will arrive T4. JFK-MSP could be T4 or T2. Generally your flight number is a good indicator. 4xxx flights leave from T4; 2xxx flights leave from T2.
You can re-enter security at T4 just after exiting customs. No need to go back upstairs to Departures/regular security.
If you do leave from T2, you can walk or take the landside Air Train, but I would re-enter security at T4 and take the airside Delta Jitney bus from T4 to T2. It leaves from the B18-ish area of T4.
As for your duty free. I can't imagine that TSA would allow liquids otherwise prohibited simply because an employee (and maybe a contract employee, to boot) in a foreign airport over which TSA has no control or oversight, by seal, says "yeah, this is ok." (TSA doesn't accept a security screening at a foreign airport, and requires re-screening for onward US travel. So if foreign security screening isn't sufficient, the actions of non-security personnel won't be sufficient). Plan on checking it.
You can re-enter security at T4 just after exiting customs. No need to go back upstairs to Departures/regular security.
If you do leave from T2, you can walk or take the landside Air Train, but I would re-enter security at T4 and take the airside Delta Jitney bus from T4 to T2. It leaves from the B18-ish area of T4.
As for your duty free. I can't imagine that TSA would allow liquids otherwise prohibited simply because an employee (and maybe a contract employee, to boot) in a foreign airport over which TSA has no control or oversight, by seal, says "yeah, this is ok." (TSA doesn't accept a security screening at a foreign airport, and requires re-screening for onward US travel. So if foreign security screening isn't sufficient, the actions of non-security personnel won't be sufficient). Plan on checking it.
Jan 26, 2018, 2:00 pm
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Ok. So it turns out I was wrong and this is in fact operated by Alitalia. Doh.
So what's the best way to get from whatever terminal that means to T2 or T4?
Fwiw, it's not true that the TSA doesn't accept foreign security screenings. Ireland and Canada both have security screening to US regulations just fine. There's not much point in doing it anywhere else as long as most airports don't have the new customs process.
So what's the best way to get from whatever terminal that means to T2 or T4?
Fwiw, it's not true that the TSA doesn't accept foreign security screenings. Ireland and Canada both have security screening to US regulations just fine. There's not much point in doing it anywhere else as long as most airports don't have the new customs process.
Jan 26, 2018, 4:15 pm
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I'm surprised more FT'ers don't know about the TSA inbound duty free liquids rule. This comes up every now and then, but has been in place for a few years:
You may carry duty free liquids in secure, tamper–evident bags, more than 3.4 oz or 100 ml in your carry-on bag if:
Liquids more than 3.4 oz or 100 ml not in a secure, tamper-evident bag must be packed in checked baggage.
- The duty free liquids were purchased internationally and you are traveling to the United States with a connecting flight.
- The liquids are packed in a transparent, secure, tamper-evident bag by the retailer and do not show signs of tampering when presented to TSA for screening.
- The original receipt for the liquids is present and the purchase was made within 48 hours.
Liquids more than 3.4 oz or 100 ml not in a secure, tamper-evident bag must be packed in checked baggage.
Jan 26, 2018, 5:15 pm
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You can re-enter security at T4 just after exiting customs. No need to go back upstairs to Departures/regular security.
As for your duty free. I can't imagine that TSA would allow liquids otherwise prohibited simply because an employee (and maybe a contract employee, to boot) in a foreign airport over which TSA has no control or oversight, by seal, says "yeah, this is ok." (TSA doesn't accept a security screening at a foreign airport, and requires re-screening for onward US travel. So if foreign security screening isn't sufficient, the actions of non-security personnel won't be sufficient). Plan on checking it.
As for your duty free. I can't imagine that TSA would allow liquids otherwise prohibited simply because an employee (and maybe a contract employee, to boot) in a foreign airport over which TSA has no control or oversight, by seal, says "yeah, this is ok." (TSA doesn't accept a security screening at a foreign airport, and requires re-screening for onward US travel. So if foreign security screening isn't sufficient, the actions of non-security personnel won't be sufficient). Plan on checking it.
As for the second, the reason you have to clear security again doesn't have anything (well, much) to do with the foreign airport's security, it is because you have had access to your checked bags. You could have removed something not allowed in the cabin (like a knife) so you have to be checked again.
Jan 27, 2018, 1:30 pm
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Similar question here. We will be flying DUB-JFK-YYZ on a single Delta ticket. DUB-JFK is on Delta #45 and JFK-YYZ is Delta connection Endeavor #4020 . Time between the two flights is a little over an hour. Is that sufficient time? Delta is selling the ticket, so they think so. On the JFK-YYZ leg do you go through Canadian customs in JFK or YYZ? I seem to recall (years ago) some flights from Canada to the U.S. you clear U.S. customs in Canada and arrive as a domestic flight.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
Jan 27, 2018, 2:28 pm
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You'll clear Canadian customs in YYZ. Canada has the right to open immigration and customs stations at US airports under the same agreement that allows the US to do so at Canadian airports. Canada however, has not yet chosen to exercise that right.
Jan 27, 2018, 7:48 pm
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Jan 27, 2018, 8:45 pm
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Similar question here. We will be flying DUB-JFK-YYZ on a single Delta ticket. DUB-JFK is on Delta #45 and JFK-YYZ is Delta connection Endeavor #4020 . Time between the two flights is a little over an hour. Is that sufficient time? Delta is selling the ticket, so they think so. On the JFK-YYZ leg do you go through Canadian customs in JFK or YYZ? I seem to recall (years ago) some flights from Canada to the U.S. you clear U.S. customs in Canada and arrive as a domestic flight.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
You will clear Canadian customs and Immigration in YYZ.
Jan 27, 2018, 9:10 pm
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You will clear US customs/immigration in Dublin, make sure you arrive at DUB with enough time to go through the customs and immigration process there. Your flight will arrive at JFK just like any other domestic arrival. No TSA or Customs required once at JFK.
You will clear Canadian customs and Immigration in YYZ.
You will clear Canadian customs and Immigration in YYZ.
Jan 27, 2018, 10:08 pm
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Here is some info on the preclearance program: https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/1640/~/cbp-preclearance
And a site to look at historical processing times by airport to give you an idea of when to arrive at DUB: https://pqt.cbp.gov
And a site to look at historical processing times by airport to give you an idea of when to arrive at DUB: https://pqt.cbp.gov
Jan 28, 2018, 8:12 am
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Here is some info on the preclearance program: https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/det...p-preclearance
And a site to look at historical processing times by airport to give you an idea of when to arrive at DUB: https://pqt.cbp.gov
And a site to look at historical processing times by airport to give you an idea of when to arrive at DUB: https://pqt.cbp.gov
More great information, thanks so much.