Centurion Lounge Coming to JFK T4
#31
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The CSR made a splash with the 100k UR signup bonus. Now that it's over (and probably never coming back), I don't think it's anywhere near as much of a threat in the long term. I'd bet that a ton of people cancelled theirs after the first year (or are going to when the AF is up). The demographic they were getting to sign up doesn't actually want a 'premium' card, they want a 'free stuff' card, which they could easily get by redeeming their UR points through chase in the UR portal.
Amex's place at the top of the luxury card business isn't going away soon, but they need to start coming up with ways to differentiate and provide tangible benefits beyond discount full-fare F tickets and discount private jets if they want to continue the 'mainstream' adoption of the plat card.
Amex's place at the top of the luxury card business isn't going away soon, but they need to start coming up with ways to differentiate and provide tangible benefits beyond discount full-fare F tickets and discount private jets if they want to continue the 'mainstream' adoption of the plat card.
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It's not that far...
it's easy to go to this lounge area as soon as you get through security and then just leave 5 minutes earlier to get to your gate (instead of spending 5 minutes up front to get to the SC)
it's easy to go to this lounge area as soon as you get through security and then just leave 5 minutes earlier to get to your gate (instead of spending 5 minutes up front to get to the SC)
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However, if the latter, then it’s completely pointless and an utter waste of time (even for FT standards) for me to continue exchanging views with you.
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And now you're blaming me for your word choice? Like, you verbatim said "confront them aggressively" but somehow I wasn't supposed to read either the word "confront" or the word "aggressively".
OK dude, good talk.
OK dude, good talk.
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If you've read this before replying, what does this mean to you?
#40
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Yes, but certain bloggers insist that the CSR's "unlimited" is infinitely better than Amex's 2, regardless of how often you actually *have* more than 2 guests.
More relevant is whether a lounge even will let you and 100 of your best friends in (unlikely), since the lounge can enforce whatever guest cap they want- Amex and Chase just pay the lounge per entry. It's a great marketing pitch, but doesn't mean much in the end.
More relevant is whether a lounge even will let you and 100 of your best friends in (unlikely), since the lounge can enforce whatever guest cap they want- Amex and Chase just pay the lounge per entry. It's a great marketing pitch, but doesn't mean much in the end.
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I wonder if DL is now considering restricting access for Amex card members to their SC, because Amex will have their own lounge. This would also take care of the over crowding of SC during peak hours.
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I feel like overcrowding will also be somewhat self-correcting when there's another lounge. As an Amex Platinum cardmember flying out of SEA, if the A1 Sky Club was full I'd go around the corner to the Centurion Lounge; depending on how far apart they are at JFK I might do the same, or use whichever is closer to my gate.