Downgraded from Complimentary Upgrade on LAS-CVG Red Eye
#1
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Downgraded from Complimentary Upgrade on LAS-CVG Red Eye
Hello All... Long time reader first time poster.
I'm a Delta Diamond and I received a complimentary upgrade to first class for the flight back from Las Vegas to Cincinnati Sunday night for myself and my brother (flying on the same reservation). However, when I got to the gate the Delta App showed that I was no longer checked in for the flight, and my boarding pass was gone. Luckily I had a paper boarding pass as a backup. Then, when scanned it printed out new seat assignment slips showing us moved out of first class to Comfort+.
I asked the gate agent about this, and she referred me to her colleague. She stated that I was downgraded because my seats were given to "paying confirmed customers". I e-mailed Delta letting them know I was disappointed with this and they responded that it shouldn't have happened, but they were sorry and would share the info for future improvement. They also didn't completely edit the form letter response they sent me, so it felt really personal when it said the flight was from Detroit to Knoxville. Made it feel like they really care.
Anyone else experience your "confirmed" upgrade being sold out from under you? For a night flight like this it was pretty disappointing to not be in first class when I had been expecting it. Really makes lose trust in Delta when things like this happen.
Thanks,
Luke
I'm a Delta Diamond and I received a complimentary upgrade to first class for the flight back from Las Vegas to Cincinnati Sunday night for myself and my brother (flying on the same reservation). However, when I got to the gate the Delta App showed that I was no longer checked in for the flight, and my boarding pass was gone. Luckily I had a paper boarding pass as a backup. Then, when scanned it printed out new seat assignment slips showing us moved out of first class to Comfort+.
I asked the gate agent about this, and she referred me to her colleague. She stated that I was downgraded because my seats were given to "paying confirmed customers". I e-mailed Delta letting them know I was disappointed with this and they responded that it shouldn't have happened, but they were sorry and would share the info for future improvement. They also didn't completely edit the form letter response they sent me, so it felt really personal when it said the flight was from Detroit to Knoxville. Made it feel like they really care.
Anyone else experience your "confirmed" upgrade being sold out from under you? For a night flight like this it was pretty disappointing to not be in first class when I had been expecting it. Really makes lose trust in Delta when things like this happen.
Thanks,
Luke
#3
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You're due $200 and miles. I got $600 when I was downgraded on part of an itinerary upgraded using a RUC.
How far out did it happen? I wouldn't rule out the GA stealing your upgrade and giving it to someone else.
How far out did it happen? I wouldn't rule out the GA stealing your upgrade and giving it to someone else.
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I don't think the $200 is due when it's a complimentary upgrade (RU), only when one has purchased first/business or confirmed an upgrade with miles or instrument (RUC/GUC).
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That's been standard practice from what I've seen. Any downgrade from the premium cabin, regardless of how you got there, should yield $200 minimum.
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Luke
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It seems like what might have happened here was that there was a confirmed F passenger without a seat assignment. The confirmed passenger checked in after the gate agent had cleared upgrades (prematurely early), and so that upgrade had to be rescinded to give the confirmed passenger their seat.
If this is what happened, it was a simple mistake by a gate agent - not a matter of a seat being sold out from under an upgrade.
If this is what happened, it was a simple mistake by a gate agent - not a matter of a seat being sold out from under an upgrade.
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It seems like what might have happened here was that there was a confirmed F passenger without a seat assignment. The confirmed passenger checked in after the gate agent had cleared upgrades (prematurely early), and so that upgrade had to be rescinded to give the confirmed passenger their seat.
If this is what happened, it was a simple mistake by a gate agent - not a matter of a seat being sold out from under an upgrade.
If this is what happened, it was a simple mistake by a gate agent - not a matter of a seat being sold out from under an upgrade.
Brings up the question, when a mistake happens, do we always need to go after the employee / company.
We are "usually" more understanding when a Hotel room pre-upgrade gets rescind due to mistakes.
#12
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I feel the need to give them feedback just to be aware that this is happening so they can look at their process. It is likely they processed the upgrades too soon. However, when the upgrade clears and then is taken away, it makes people grumpy. I think Delta needs to know when they do things that make passengers unhappy. If their apology letter had been accurate I probably would have not pressed the issue further. To be honest, in general the people at Delta have been friendly and helpful to me, and it's why I fly almost exclusively with them.
Luke
Luke
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DL is well aware that this is happening and condones the practice. The DG and subsequent sale of the paid seat to presumably an HVC are all recorded keystrokes and employees don't do this sort of stuff unless they know that their employer will back them up.
DL does tend to toss those $200 customer service gestures for any DG, even though all it is required to do is refund the fare difference, e.g. $0.
All of this points to simply handling this stuff at the gate. OP would never have been UG because the seat would have been sold and there never would have been an issue.
DL does tend to toss those $200 customer service gestures for any DG, even though all it is required to do is refund the fare difference, e.g. $0.
All of this points to simply handling this stuff at the gate. OP would never have been UG because the seat would have been sold and there never would have been an issue.
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It seems like what might have happened here was that there was a confirmed F passenger without a seat assignment. The confirmed passenger checked in after the gate agent had cleared upgrades (prematurely early), and so that upgrade had to be rescinded to give the confirmed passenger their seat.
If this is what happened, it was a simple mistake by a gate agent - not a matter of a seat being sold out from under an upgrade.
If this is what happened, it was a simple mistake by a gate agent - not a matter of a seat being sold out from under an upgrade.