Lights Stuck On
Dec 31, 2017, 9:23 am
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The switch is not a MEL, it is not a flight safety issue and thus no reason to delay the flight for repairs. Delaying maintenance to the next downtime for the aircraft, especially a major hub, is common for these sorts of minor faults which need not be operational.
Offloading oneself is absolutely crazy, but people do crazy things all the time and carriers accoomodate them because it is better to deal with on the ground than with somebody who goes off the rails at FL35.
All electrical systems can be shut down in an emergency. The cockpit has circuit breaker access for just that. But, this was not an emergency.
Offloading oneself is absolutely crazy, but people do crazy things all the time and carriers accoomodate them because it is better to deal with on the ground than with somebody who goes off the rails at FL35.
All electrical systems can be shut down in an emergency. The cockpit has circuit breaker access for just that. But, this was not an emergency.
Dec 31, 2017, 10:24 am
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Well captains have made bad decisions throughout the history of flight. What makes you think pilots are perfect now?
Dec 31, 2017, 10:37 am
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I flew in Y on a KLM long-haul last year and the entire front section of Y had the lights stuck on the entire overnight flight.
I don’t think they gave us any miles or compensation.
I always carry a sleep mask but I Felt bad for everyone else.
I don’t think they gave us any miles or compensation.
I always carry a sleep mask but I Felt bad for everyone else.
Dec 31, 2017, 10:45 am
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I experienced this late last month flying Haneda to MSP, but they didn't realize it until about an hour in. It was also interesting that it only affected rows 10 and behind. I faintly remember them saying the only way to fix it was manually adjusting something in a part of the plane they couldn't get to. The Purser came by later and said it had happened a few weeks prior and they'd assured them it was fixed, apparently not.
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Dec 31, 2017, 10:48 am
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US regulations, unlike some other country's regulations, do not require the dimming of the cabin lights for night takeoffs or landings. If they did, the airplane would not have been flyable with the lights stuck on high.
The cabin lights are an MEL item. Any restrictions associated with operating with this failure would be listed. If the system could not be quickly disabled in an emergency through alternate means then it would not be deferable.
The cabin lights are an MEL item. Any restrictions associated with operating with this failure would be listed. If the system could not be quickly disabled in an emergency through alternate means then it would not be deferable.
Dec 31, 2017, 10:48 am
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Did you read reply #13 ? Obviously NOT! It's not an MEL, so the flight was good to go. The captain may also not have known about the issue at all. Nobody said any bad decision was made except YOU! Get over it!
Dec 31, 2017, 10:58 am
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Maybe you should re-read your pathetic reply #6 again.
Dec 31, 2017, 11:28 am
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"That's probably the most stupid reply I've ever read on here!"
"Offloading oneself is absolutely crazy "
"Get over it! "
"My goodness. You are quite excited over this and I'm not sure why."
"Maybe you should re-read your pathetic reply #6 again."
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"Offloading oneself is absolutely crazy "
"Get over it! "
"My goodness. You are quite excited over this and I'm not sure why."
"Maybe you should re-read your pathetic reply #6 again."
#whyFTmakesfunholiday reading
Dec 31, 2017, 11:38 am
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Dec 31, 2017, 4:19 pm
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Dec 31, 2017, 4:21 pm
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Unfortunately the problem wasn’t announced until after pushback, so it would have required a gate return, etc. Whether they do that or not for you I suppose is based on how much of a stink one puts up and how much of a security risk the crew believes you pose once they get to cruising altitude.
Dec 31, 2017, 4:26 pm
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I also thought about the safety issue of needing to evacuate and eyes not being adjusted to proper lighting. Figured I’d blink a few times while jumping down the slide. 
Dec 31, 2017, 4:29 pm
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Unfortunately the problem wasn’t announced until after pushback, so it would have required a gate return, etc. Whether they do that or not for you I suppose is based on how much of a stink one puts up and how much of a security risk the crew believes you pose once they get to cruising altitude.
In August of 1985 I was in a near crash in a 727 when, during takeoff from Reno, both tires on the right side (727) blew and debris shut down engines #1 and #3 after V1. We stopped not far from the fence along Mill street. It was daytime, but ever since, I have been acutely aware of all my surroundings during takeoff. I don't want to be in a bright cabin evacuating at night.
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