Woman feels profiled after being mistaken for human trafficking victim on Delta
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I would strongly suspect that in a matter of seconds the CPB officers knew that the allegation was nonsense. Hard to know though if they were forced to go through a lengthy verification because of "the system".
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This DL incident doesn't surprise me one bit, and it's not the first time it's happened when flying DL. This kind of stuff when flying is expected when paranoia is ramped up, stereotyping (and buying into stereotypes) ramped up, and the government and others want an "everyone-may-be-an-informant" society that would have made Erich Honecker proud.
It need not be a "lengthy verification". I've seen it take less than 30 seconds often enough.
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By eating up time and money from DL and some of its employees/passengers engaged in racist profiling? That's a win of sorts too, and some may consider it worth their own time/money to try to make sure that those engaged in racist profiling of sorts are made to pay a lawful price of sorts for such prejudicial behavior.
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Holding passports is a standard mechanism for controlling slaves/indentured workers/whatever term or condition. It prevents free movement and makes them much less likely to go to authorities.
So, somebody on the plane was paying enough attention to see something they thought meant somebody else had her passport. Maybe just passing it to her friend while handling luggage; who knows. That got reported to a flight attendant, who reported it on to the airport authorities as trained,
So, somebody on the plane was paying enough attention to see something they thought meant somebody else had her passport. Maybe just passing it to her friend while handling luggage; who knows. That got reported to a flight attendant, who reported it on to the airport authorities as trained,
So, somebody on the plane was a nosey busybody. And the officialdom is more than glad to run with it. Just following orders, they will chant. Like me surrendering my passport to my wife after passing a checkpoint.
While I'm all for "see something, say something", those persons who do report something need held accountable when they get it totally wrong. We don't let pullers of fire alarms off the hook when there's no emergency, now do we?
My two cents.
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Holding passports is a standard mechanism used by my wife for controlling me such that I won't lose it.
So, somebody on the plane was a nosey busybody. And the officialdom is more than glad to run with it. Just following orders, they will chant. Like me surrendering my passport to my wife after passing a checkpoint.
While I'm all for "see something, say something", those persons who do report something need held accountable when they get it totally wrong. We don't let pullers of fire alarms off the hook when there's no emergency, now do we?
My two cents.
So, somebody on the plane was a nosey busybody. And the officialdom is more than glad to run with it. Just following orders, they will chant. Like me surrendering my passport to my wife after passing a checkpoint.
While I'm all for "see something, say something", those persons who do report something need held accountable when they get it totally wrong. We don't let pullers of fire alarms off the hook when there's no emergency, now do we?
My two cents.
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There is a big push for airline employees to be alert to the signs of human trafficking. These are people who are effectively modern-day slaves and airline employees are often in a position to see the signs that can lead to them being freed.
http://www.afacwa.org/stop_human_trafficking
http://www.afacwa.org/stop_human_trafficking
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There is a big push for airline employees to be alert to the signs of human trafficking. These are people who are effectively modern-day slaves and airline employees are often in a position to see the signs that can lead to them being freed.
http://www.afacwa.org/stop_human_trafficking
http://www.afacwa.org/stop_human_trafficking
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Trafficking in Persons is a big issue. I believe Delta did the correct thing in this scenario, but CBP did not properly handle the situation. They should not receive any compensation from Delta.
I'd encourage anyone who wants to learn more about human trafficking issues to read the State Department's annual TIP Reports.
https://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/2017/index.htm
I'd encourage anyone who wants to learn more about human trafficking issues to read the State Department's annual TIP Reports.
https://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/2017/index.htm
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What happens when some poor girl that has been kidnapped and being trafficked, someone tells an FA, but they and DL do nothing? It comes out that DL could have prevented it...something tells me someone on this board would not be defending Delta as they were just minding their business.
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Trafficking in Persons is a big issue. I believe Delta did the correct thing in this scenario, but CBP did not properly handle the situation. They should not receive any compensation from Delta.
I'd encourage anyone who wants to learn more about human trafficking issues to read the State Department's annual TIP Reports.
https://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/2017/index.htm
I'd encourage anyone who wants to learn more about human trafficking issues to read the State Department's annual TIP Reports.
https://www.state.gov/j/tip/rls/tiprpt/2017/index.htm
DHS's Blue Campaign invites any and all to receive training and be "a part of the team". Their self-proclaimed victim-centered approach targets persons who fear law enforcement, don't identify themselves as a victim, don't tell a complete story or use rehearsed responses, and identify with their 'holder' or trafficker. This arguably defines lil ol' ME with my wife being the holder.
Most of the key indicators being used by DHS to train their "behavior-identifying deputies" just as equally describe symptoms of autism, bipolar disorder, and depression--symptom which may occur even when receiving treatment.
Human trafficking in any form is horrific. But, as we see time and again, overreach isn't the answer unless you're a fan of the Police State.
Last edited by Grog; Nov 29, 2017 at 10:44 am
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What happens when some poor girl that has been kidnapped and being trafficked, someone tells an FA, but they and DL do nothing? It comes out that DL could have prevented it...something tells me someone on this board would not be defending Delta as they were just minding their business.
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What happens when some poor girl that has been kidnapped and being trafficked, someone tells an FA, but they and DL do nothing? It comes out that DL could have prevented it...something tells me someone on this board would not be defending Delta as they were just minding their business.