Checking bag without "valid" ID
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Checking bag without "valid" ID
I need to travel this week and I'm waiting for my new DL and passport renewal in the mail. I know TSA will let folks through without ID and I also have Clear, so I'm not too worried about the TSA side. But I need to check a bag and want to know how Delta will handle this?
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Assuming you can't convince the check-in agent that you are under 18, I believe the Delta policy is either one valid government-issued photo ID or two forms of non-photographic identification, one of which must be government-issued. So a social security card would work with a second form of ID.
This of course assumes you have an agent who knows Delta policies. I just looked quickly on the website and could only find it under Delta Vacations but with more time to search you might find a better citation:
Travel Identification
• Domestic Travel: All passengers 18 years of age or older are required to present 1 form of government- issued photo ID (such as a valid driver's license) or 2 forms of non-photo identification, 1 of which must be a state or federal agency-issued (such as a U.S. Social Security card), before boarding a flight. Failure to present positive identification can result in denied boarding and no refunds will be granted.
This of course assumes you have an agent who knows Delta policies. I just looked quickly on the website and could only find it under Delta Vacations but with more time to search you might find a better citation:
Travel Identification
• Domestic Travel: All passengers 18 years of age or older are required to present 1 form of government- issued photo ID (such as a valid driver's license) or 2 forms of non-photo identification, 1 of which must be a state or federal agency-issued (such as a U.S. Social Security card), before boarding a flight. Failure to present positive identification can result in denied boarding and no refunds will be granted.
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I need to travel this week and I'm waiting for my new DL and passport renewal in the mail. I know TSA will let folks through without ID and I also have Clear, so I'm not too worried about the TSA side. But I need to check a bag and want to know how Delta will handle this?
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To the OP....go really early and be nice. They will find a way to make it work. You are right that the TSA will let you though without an ID and I am pretty sure DL has procedures for dealing with a domestic passenger without ID as well. As an alternative, you could FedEx your bag the day before.
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OP has CLEAR so this is a bit of a sidetrack, but in case this helps anyone else who comes across this thread via Google, and has the misfortune like me earlier this year to be stuck at a non-CLEAR airport without a picture ID...
I don't think anyone would reasonably interpret kenn0223's comment to suggest that the TSA will simply wave you through without any verification
... this. In my case I had credit cards, but they asked if I had anything else with my name on it like prescription meds, which I did.
I had to go through the regular non-Precheck screening lane and submit to a full patdown (there was some brief confusion about whether I could opt out of the body scanner but they eventually decided yes, since I was getting a patdown anyway).
Lastly they went through my carry-ons and inspected/opened/flipped through just about everything.
All told this only added about 10 minutes to the screening process, but I would still allow extra time to be safe.
I had to go through the regular non-Precheck screening lane and submit to a full patdown (there was some brief confusion about whether I could opt out of the body scanner but they eventually decided yes, since I was getting a patdown anyway).
Lastly they went through my carry-ons and inspected/opened/flipped through just about everything.
All told this only added about 10 minutes to the screening process, but I would still allow extra time to be safe.
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Not necessarily. I've been asked to show ID to the TSA document checker several times with CLEAR. It seems pretty common at the MSP South checkpoint, but it happened to me someplace else too. These incidents make me wonder what the point is of someone (not me!) paying $179 a year for CLEAR.
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Not necessarily. I've been asked to show ID to the TSA document checker several times with CLEAR. It seems pretty common at the MSP South checkpoint, but it happened to me someplace else too. These incidents make me wonder what the point is of someone (not me!) paying $179 a year for CLEAR.
Now that they moved the CLEAR exit into the PreCheck lines behind the TSA ID checker at that checkpoint they often don't even look back to see what's going on. The NORTH checkpoint is another issue all together; the seeming permanent use of dogs where everyone (Clear, PreCheck, and regular passengers) are all merged together makes both Clear and PreCheck realistically useless. I also have my doubts the TSA agent is being truthful when they stand at the top of the escalators and tell people the North checkpoint it faster...its not.
Last edited by kenn0223; Nov 22, 2017 at 10:42 am
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A wrinkle with Clear is that your biometrics just refer the system back to your ID on file with the Clear system. If the OP's ID's have expired, Clear may not operate as intended for that reason alone. Although there's always the extra-scrutiny TSA procedures to fall back to.
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A wrinkle with Clear is that your biometrics just refer the system back to your ID on file with the Clear system. If the OP's ID's have expired, Clear may not operate as intended for that reason alone. Although there's always the extra-scrutiny TSA procedures to fall back to.
Anyone who thinks there is some well oiled massive IT back-end that connects the airlines and agencies and verifies everything at every step in real-time is living in a fantasy. There is one system, Secure Flight, that the airlines match against during check-in to determine if a passenger can be issued a boarding pass and, if so, what kind of boarding pass (SSSS, regular, or PreCheck). Once the boarding pass is issued any automated checking ends everything the TSA does lives in the barcode on the boarding pass (which is generally not verified until the airline boards the passenger). One of several vulnerabilities in the system is that one can easily make their own boarding pass at home and use their own (or someones or a fraudulent) ID to get past the checkpoint.
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I’m sorry but that’s not correct. And I never suggested that Clear maintains a 50-state database of IDs. When you register with Clear, they take a digital copy of your ID. Your biometrics are merely to confirm your identity, and your ID is already on file. That’s why the TSA lets them bypass the ID check
if your ID on file is expired, I don’t know what happens. The OP may find out and let us know.
if your ID on file is expired, I don’t know what happens. The OP may find out and let us know.