Sep 17, 2018, 11:55 am
Last edit by: N515CR
Delta 777-200ER/LR Conversions to 7HD & 7HB. Pre-mods config is 37J/36W/218Y. For all the ERs and the first LR, post-mods config was initially 28J/48W/220Y (7HD/7HB). The post-mods config for all ERs and LRs is now 28J/48W/90Y+/122Y (7CD/7CB).
Modifications are taking place at SIN and the entry and exit dates are based on SIN time (GMT + 8 hrs). Comfort + installation was done at ATL on all the 7HD>7CD conversions, and on 7106 (7HB>7CB). The remaining 9 LRs had the C + cabins installed at SIN.
777-200ER: 8/8 7CD
N860DA 7001 - Entered Jan 2 2019...finished Feb 3 2019. Entered ATL March 12 2019 for C + installation...finished March 15 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N861DA 7002 - Entered Jan 14 2019...finished Feb 17 2019. Entered ATL March 13 2019 for C + installation...finished March 17 2019. Permanently wfu on 17 March 2020.
N862DA 7003 - Entered Nov 29 2018...finished Jan 5 2019. Entered ATL March 6 2019 for C + installation...finished March 10 2019.
N863DA 7004 - Entered Feb 17 2018...finished June 6 2018. Entered ATL Feb 17 2019 for C + installation...finished March 3 2019. Permanently wfu on 22 September 2020.
N864DA 7005 - Entered Sept 18 2018...finished Oct 22 2018. Entered ATL March 3 2019 for C + installation...finished March 7 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N865DA 7006 - Entered Nov 16 2018...finished Dec 18 2018. Entered ATL Feb 21 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 27 2019.
N866DA 7007 - Entered Oct 24 2018...finished Nov 27 2018. Entered ATL Jan 28 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 16 2019.
N867DA 7008 - Entered Feb 4 2019...finished March 11 2019. Entered ATL March 25 2019 for C + installation...finished March 30 2019.
777-200LR: 10/10 7CB
N701DN 7101 - Entered Sept 14 2019...finished Oct 31 2019...C +.
N702DN 7102 - Entered Nov 8 2019...finished December 29 2019...C +.
N703DN 7103 - Entered Oct 18 2019...finished December 13 2019. C +.
N704DK 7104 - Entered April 4 2019...finished May 4 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N705DN 7105 - Entered Feb 25 2018...finished March 28 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 22 March 2020.
N706DN 7106 - Entered Sept 6 2018...finished Nov 1 2018. Entered ATL for C + installation March 1 2019...C + finished March 14 2019. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N707DN 7107 - Entered March 23 2019...finished April 23 2019...C +.
N708DN 7108 - Entered Dec 20 2019...finished Feb 5 2020...C +.
N709DN 7109 - Entered Jan 3 2020..finished Feb 8 2020...C +.
N710DN 7110 - Entered Nov 18 2019...finished Dec 24 2019...C +.
Modifications are taking place at SIN and the entry and exit dates are based on SIN time (GMT + 8 hrs). Comfort + installation was done at ATL on all the 7HD>7CD conversions, and on 7106 (7HB>7CB). The remaining 9 LRs had the C + cabins installed at SIN.
777-200ER: 8/8 7CD
N860DA 7001 - Entered Jan 2 2019...finished Feb 3 2019. Entered ATL March 12 2019 for C + installation...finished March 15 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N861DA 7002 - Entered Jan 14 2019...finished Feb 17 2019. Entered ATL March 13 2019 for C + installation...finished March 17 2019. Permanently wfu on 17 March 2020.
N862DA 7003 - Entered Nov 29 2018...finished Jan 5 2019. Entered ATL March 6 2019 for C + installation...finished March 10 2019.
N863DA 7004 - Entered Feb 17 2018...finished June 6 2018. Entered ATL Feb 17 2019 for C + installation...finished March 3 2019. Permanently wfu on 22 September 2020.
N864DA 7005 - Entered Sept 18 2018...finished Oct 22 2018. Entered ATL March 3 2019 for C + installation...finished March 7 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N865DA 7006 - Entered Nov 16 2018...finished Dec 18 2018. Entered ATL Feb 21 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 27 2019.
N866DA 7007 - Entered Oct 24 2018...finished Nov 27 2018. Entered ATL Jan 28 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 16 2019.
N867DA 7008 - Entered Feb 4 2019...finished March 11 2019. Entered ATL March 25 2019 for C + installation...finished March 30 2019.
777-200LR: 10/10 7CB
N701DN 7101 - Entered Sept 14 2019...finished Oct 31 2019...C +.
N702DN 7102 - Entered Nov 8 2019...finished December 29 2019...C +.
N703DN 7103 - Entered Oct 18 2019...finished December 13 2019. C +.
N704DK 7104 - Entered April 4 2019...finished May 4 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N705DN 7105 - Entered Feb 25 2018...finished March 28 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 22 March 2020.
N706DN 7106 - Entered Sept 6 2018...finished Nov 1 2018. Entered ATL for C + installation March 1 2019...C + finished March 14 2019. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N707DN 7107 - Entered March 23 2019...finished April 23 2019...C +.
N708DN 7108 - Entered Dec 20 2019...finished Feb 5 2020...C +.
N709DN 7109 - Entered Jan 3 2020..finished Feb 8 2020...C +.
N710DN 7110 - Entered Nov 18 2019...finished Dec 24 2019...C +.
Delta confirms first route with 777 offering Delta One Suites, Premium Select, Comfort+ and Main Cabin: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1949190-tailored-travel-delta-debut-first-aircraft-all-four-seat-experiences-marc.html
777 D1 Suite PS + Comfort+ retrofit consolidated thread
Feb 3, 2019, 11:03 am
#466
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Why is that? Other than the 2K pressurization and slightly lower noise, the 777 is demonstrably better - either bigger seats (e.g., coach) or wider aisles (I assume the Polaris and Premium Select seats are the same as in the A350 meaning that the aisles are wider).
As of right now, C+ doesn't even exist on the A350. I think we can have a debate once they are retrofitted with C+ seats. Until then, the newly refurbed 777s are definitely the real flagship.
To be clear, I am not a Boeing fanboy. I would prefer to be on an A321 over a 737 any day of the week for example. Just saying that demonstrably the 777s are superior to Delta's A350 in quantifiable ways at present. I understand the "soft benefits" of pressurization but those are harder to quantify.
As of right now, C+ doesn't even exist on the A350. I think we can have a debate once they are retrofitted with C+ seats. Until then, the newly refurbed 777s are definitely the real flagship.
To be clear, I am not a Boeing fanboy. I would prefer to be on an A321 over a 737 any day of the week for example. Just saying that demonstrably the 777s are superior to Delta's A350 in quantifiable ways at present. I understand the "soft benefits" of pressurization but those are harder to quantify.
Feb 3, 2019, 12:14 pm
#467
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: CHS
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I'm scheduled to fly CDG-ATL on a newly retrofitted 777 with D1 Suites. When I booked the flight, it was quite clearly being marketed as a "Suites" D1 cabin but I got a notification on ExpertFlyer that the aircraft was swapped from a "D7L" to a "7CC" on Jan 5th. After the switch, the seat map no longer looked like the D1 Suites, just regular old D1. However, on the trip details, it had the word "Suites" written on the itinerary. I called the DM line and even the agent was confused. She confirmed that the plane is being marketed and sold as D1 Suites but that everything else looked like standard D1.
Yesterday, I got another ExpertFlyer notification that the aircraft had been swapped back to a "D7L".
Any idea what's going on here? Any chance that the aircraft actually won't have the D1 Suites on it?
Thanks!
Yesterday, I got another ExpertFlyer notification that the aircraft had been swapped back to a "D7L".
Any idea what's going on here? Any chance that the aircraft actually won't have the D1 Suites on it?
Thanks!
Feb 3, 2019, 12:41 pm
#468
Join Date: May 2004
Location: SDF
Programs: DL:360/DM/6 MMer; Bonvoy: Lifetime Titanium 10+M pts, 3100+ nights;
Posts: 1,441
I'm scheduled to fly CDG-ATL on a newly retrofitted 777 with D1 Suites. When I booked the flight, it was quite clearly being marketed as a "Suites" D1 cabin but I got a notification on ExpertFlyer that the aircraft was swapped from a "D7L" to a "7CC" on Jan 5th. After the switch, the seat map no longer looked like the D1 Suites, just regular old D1. However, on the trip details, it had the word "Suites" written on the itinerary. I called the DM line and even the agent was confused. She confirmed that the plane is being marketed and sold as D1 Suites but that everything else looked like standard D1.
Yesterday, I got another ExpertFlyer notification that the aircraft had been swapped back to a "D7L".
Any idea what's going on here? Any chance that the aircraft actually won't have the D1 Suites on it?
Thanks!
Yesterday, I got another ExpertFlyer notification that the aircraft had been swapped back to a "D7L".
Any idea what's going on here? Any chance that the aircraft actually won't have the D1 Suites on it?
Thanks!
Wish they'd decide and leave it alone.
Feb 3, 2019, 12:42 pm
#469
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SJC/YUL
Programs: DL PM, Marriott Gold
Posts: 3,877
Why is that? Other than the 2K pressurization and slightly lower noise, the 777 is demonstrably better - either bigger seats (e.g., coach) or wider aisles (I assume the Polaris and Premium Select seats are the same as in the A350 meaning that the aisles are wider).
As of right now, C+ doesn't even exist on the A350. I think we can have a debate once they are retrofitted with C+ seats. Until then, the newly refurbed 777s are definitely the real flagship.
To be clear, I am not a Boeing fanboy. I would prefer to be on an A321 over a 737 any day of the week for example. Just saying that demonstrably the 777s are superior to Delta's A350 in quantifiable ways at present. I understand the "soft benefits" of pressurization but those are harder to quantify.
As of right now, C+ doesn't even exist on the A350. I think we can have a debate once they are retrofitted with C+ seats. Until then, the newly refurbed 777s are definitely the real flagship.
To be clear, I am not a Boeing fanboy. I would prefer to be on an A321 over a 737 any day of the week for example. Just saying that demonstrably the 777s are superior to Delta's A350 in quantifiable ways at present. I understand the "soft benefits" of pressurization but those are harder to quantify.
Feb 3, 2019, 1:31 pm
#470
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Ok fair. You originally said that 11 rows of C+ makes this plane the flagship. That statement, IMO, is absurd. Now you seem to be clarifying that the new 777s are really nice planes, and the extra large C+ cabin might just be the piece that helps it just beat out the A350. That is a much more reasonable argument, once again IMO. Even tho when you talk about Polaris seating on a plane with D1 suites it's hard to take you seriously.
And Polaris was a slip of the tongue - I know Delta One != Polaris.
Feb 3, 2019, 2:35 pm
#471
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I stepped away from this thread of late as I had several writing assignments to complete.
I am now looking to buy in the next weeks and wondering where I can find routes for the modded 777s. I did not see it in the Wiki so must I cull threw all the posts (start at the end and read backwards)?
I am now looking to buy in the next weeks and wondering where I can find routes for the modded 777s. I did not see it in the Wiki so must I cull threw all the posts (start at the end and read backwards)?
Feb 5, 2019, 11:13 pm
#473
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: PHX Sky Harbor
Posts: 379
DL has 2 major groups of 777's. The last of the B777-200ER's just went to SIN for adding D1 suites. Of the other 7, 6 are back in service and the 7th has been at SIN (for its conversion) for a few weeks now. DL's other group of 10 B777-200LR's (Delta scheduling calls these "777"), 9 of the 10 are all "old layout" (no D1), and the other is in service with D1 suites. Current B777-200ER (D1 layouts) are on the following routes: MSP-HND-MSP, MSP-CDG-MSP. Once in a while the ATL-CDG-ATL is also uses the same aircraft cabin layout. The first major equipment changes will be happening March 1st. I hope that helps you out.
Feb 5, 2019, 11:25 pm
#474
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SJC/YUL
Programs: DL PM, Marriott Gold
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DL has 2 major groups of 777's. The last of the B777-200ER's just went to SIN for adding D1 suites. Of the other 7, 6 are back in service and the 7th has been at SIN (for its conversion) for a few weeks now. DL's other group of 10 B777-200LR's (Delta scheduling calls these "777"), 9 of the 10 are all "old layout" (no D1), and the other is in service with D1 suites. Current B777-200ER (D1 layouts) are on the following routes: MSP-HND-MSP, MSP-CDG-MSP. Once in a while the ATL-CDG-ATL is also uses the same aircraft cabin layout. The first major equipment changes will be happening March 1st. I hope that helps you out.
Feb 6, 2019, 1:15 am
#475
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,601
Why is that? Other than the 2K pressurization and slightly lower noise, the 777 is demonstrably better - either bigger seats (e.g., coach) or wider aisles (I assume the Polaris and Premium Select seats are the same as in the A350 meaning that the aisles are wider).
As of right now, C+ doesn't even exist on the A350. I think we can have a debate once they are retrofitted with C+ seats. Until then, the newly refurbed 777s are definitely the real flagship.
To be clear, I am not a Boeing fanboy. I would prefer to be on an A321 over a 737 any day of the week for example. Just saying that demonstrably the 777s are superior to Delta's A350 in quantifiable ways at present. I understand the "soft benefits" of pressurization but those are harder to quantify.
As of right now, C+ doesn't even exist on the A350. I think we can have a debate once they are retrofitted with C+ seats. Until then, the newly refurbed 777s are definitely the real flagship.
To be clear, I am not a Boeing fanboy. I would prefer to be on an A321 over a 737 any day of the week for example. Just saying that demonstrably the 777s are superior to Delta's A350 in quantifiable ways at present. I understand the "soft benefits" of pressurization but those are harder to quantify.
Having said that you will still see plenty of marketing done with the A330, A32X, B777, B767, B757, B737, B717, MD88, MD90.
Perfect example, go watch the mini-series on the CS. The make it clear which airplane is the "flagship"
Feb 6, 2019, 2:26 pm
#476
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Posts: 1,925
I'm surprised that N866DA has already been at ATL for 10 days, for the installation of the Comfort + cabin. Comparing the interim and new seats maps, it doesn't seem like it would be that big of a job to take this long, assuming no other mx is being performed, but what do I know? Perhaps there is also the need for a supplemental STC to be signed off with this new cabin?
Feb 7, 2019, 12:49 pm
#477
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 7
Update on my MSP-HND in March situation:
Went to the airport on 2/1, they said our seats were confirmed, we owe zero, all set.
Logged in today 2/7 to check the flight and they re-assigned our plane back to the pre-refit 777 (no longer lists C+ on the seat plan).
DL120 - We were moved from 37E/F (side by side with an aisle) to 33 F/G (two aisle seats) so I immediately grabbed a pair of side by side seats before they filled up.
DL121 - Still shows the refit plane with no changes...yet.
Went to the airport on 2/1, they said our seats were confirmed, we owe zero, all set.
Logged in today 2/7 to check the flight and they re-assigned our plane back to the pre-refit 777 (no longer lists C+ on the seat plan).
DL120 - We were moved from 37E/F (side by side with an aisle) to 33 F/G (two aisle seats) so I immediately grabbed a pair of side by side seats before they filled up.
DL121 - Still shows the refit plane with no changes...yet.
Feb 10, 2019, 8:32 am
#480
Join Date: May 2017
Programs: Delta, Marriott
Posts: 187
Sorry if there is a better place to post this.
I'm taking a refit 777 in April in D1 Suites - ATL > NRT with my wife and we're obviously in the B/C seats. My question is - is an even row or odd row better for us to actually see each other and interact with each other sitting side by side? It looks like some rows have the "window" more towards the front and some more towards the back. Is this the case? I can't figure it out based on the seat map.
I'm taking a refit 777 in April in D1 Suites - ATL > NRT with my wife and we're obviously in the B/C seats. My question is - is an even row or odd row better for us to actually see each other and interact with each other sitting side by side? It looks like some rows have the "window" more towards the front and some more towards the back. Is this the case? I can't figure it out based on the seat map.