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Old Sep 17, 2018, 11:55 am
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Delta 777-200ER/LR Conversions to 7HD & 7HB. Pre-mods config is 37J/36W/218Y. For all the ERs and the first LR, post-mods config was initially 28J/48W/220Y (7HD/7HB). The post-mods config for all ERs and LRs is now 28J/48W/90Y+/122Y (7CD/7CB).

Modifications are taking place at SIN and the entry and exit dates are based on SIN time (GMT + 8 hrs). Comfort + installation was done at ATL on all the 7HD>7CD conversions, and on 7106 (7HB>7CB). The remaining 9 LRs had the C + cabins installed at SIN.

777-200ER: 8/8 7CD
N860DA 7001 - Entered Jan 2 2019...finished Feb 3 2019. Entered ATL March 12 2019 for C + installation...finished March 15 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N861DA 7002 - Entered Jan 14 2019...finished Feb 17 2019. Entered ATL March 13 2019 for C + installation...finished March 17 2019. Permanently wfu on 17 March 2020.
N862DA 7003 - Entered Nov 29 2018...finished Jan 5 2019. Entered ATL March 6 2019 for C + installation...finished March 10 2019.
N863DA 7004 - Entered Feb 17 2018...finished June 6 2018. Entered ATL Feb 17 2019 for C + installation...finished March 3 2019. Permanently wfu on 22 September 2020.
N864DA 7005 - Entered Sept 18 2018...finished Oct 22 2018. Entered ATL March 3 2019 for C + installation...finished March 7 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N865DA 7006 - Entered Nov 16 2018...finished Dec 18 2018. Entered ATL Feb 21 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 27 2019.
N866DA 7007 - Entered Oct 24 2018...finished Nov 27 2018. Entered ATL Jan 28 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 16 2019.
N867DA 7008 - Entered Feb 4 2019...finished March 11 2019. Entered ATL March 25 2019 for C + installation...finished March 30 2019.

777-200LR: 10/10 7CB
N701DN 7101 - Entered Sept 14 2019...finished Oct 31 2019...C +.
N702DN 7102 - Entered Nov 8 2019...finished December 29 2019...C +.
N703DN 7103 - Entered Oct 18 2019...finished December 13 2019. C +.
N704DK 7104 - Entered April 4 2019...finished May 4 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N705DN 7105 - Entered Feb 25 2018...finished March 28 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 22 March 2020.
N706DN 7106 - Entered Sept 6 2018...finished Nov 1 2018. Entered ATL for C + installation March 1 2019...C + finished March 14 2019. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N707DN 7107 - Entered March 23 2019...finished April 23 2019...C +.
N708DN 7108 - Entered Dec 20 2019...finished Feb 5 2020...C +.
N709DN 7109 - Entered Jan 3 2020..finished Feb 8 2020...C +.
N710DN 7110 - Entered Nov 18 2019...finished Dec 24 2019...C +.

Delta confirms first route with 777 offering Delta One Suites, Premium Select, Comfort+ and Main Cabin: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1949190-tailored-travel-delta-debut-first-aircraft-all-four-seat-experiences-marc.html
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Old Oct 28, 2018, 10:56 am
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Looking at the dates and time to complete, there appears to be a significant difference between the time for HB and HD refits. It begs a number of questions- Is it a consolidated effort and are they just focusing on the ERs over LR's? Or is there a significant difference in the installation itself and the work required? Or, are their separate teams/lines and it is just taking the LR team/line longer getting up to speed like it did with the first ER? Will the upgrade of subsequent LRs go more quickly? I guess unless there is a plant insider, any answer we be pure speculation.
You should look again! The first refit of each model takes a long time cause it has to be validated. Then they go quickly. It happened for both the ER and LR.
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Old Oct 28, 2018, 11:08 am
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You should look again! The first refit of each model takes a long time cause it has to be validated. Then they go quickly. It happened for both the ER and LR.
It took just a tad over three weeks to complete 7005, the second ER airframe to receive the mod. 7106 has been in refit for over 7 weeks so either the mod is different enough to require a separate validation, or one of the other possibilities I mentioned.
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Old Oct 28, 2018, 2:26 pm
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The LR and ER completely different FAA STC (supplemental type certificates) that will be required. The paperwork and extra testing for this represents why the first HD will take longer.

Once the STC is obtained the next should go much more quickly.
Thanks for a real answer. I am not familiar with the differences between the two airframes, but thought it possible there would be enough commonality in the areas of cabin floor/structure, wiring bundles, power requirements, etc. that the STCs and testing would be nearly identical or the same- same (or no) change to gross wt, CG, flight characteristics, etc., etc.- nothing like if it was an AD or SD. I would think other items that might also apply, like evacuation drills, have already been done. Maybe they need to drill larger holes in the lightweight sandwich panel structural flooring plinths, A16 - B117, on the LR than on the ER.( real part, fictional numbers and mod).
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Has Delta published any info on which routes these planes will be flying?
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Old Oct 28, 2018, 2:57 pm
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Has Delta published any info on which routes these planes will be flying?
MSP-HND and MSP-CDG are up first
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Old Oct 28, 2018, 3:08 pm
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MSP-HND and MSP-CDG are up first
I flew from atl to gru in it yesterday. I walked in and did a double take.. lol I was so confused because I knew there was no way we were flying an a350 down there.

Getting a suite was a nice surprise, but it was strange some of the doors were already falling apart.
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Old Oct 28, 2018, 3:16 pm
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Interesting! What do you mean by falling apart? That's hard to imagine
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Old Oct 28, 2018, 3:31 pm
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Interesting! What do you mean by falling apart? That's hard to imagine
Yes. They're so new
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Old Oct 28, 2018, 7:06 pm
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Interesting! What do you mean by falling apart? That's hard to imagine
its kind of hard to explain, but in the seat in front of me which I think was 3a, the part that holds the suite door was not attached at the bottom, and when the guy tried closing his door it also came apart at the top, so the whole piece fell into the aisle until he caught it and messed with it until he got the top snapped back in, the bottom was still not attached to the floor.

Also interesting to note is that in the window seats, there is about a 6 inch gap between the left side of the seat and the window. It would have been really nice if the seat was that much wider, but I guess they wanted it to be the same across the whole product.
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Old Oct 28, 2018, 7:09 pm
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Also interesting to note is that in the window seats, there is about a 6 inch gap between the left side of the seat and the window. It would have been really nice if the seat was that much wider, but I guess they wanted it to be the same across the whole product.
I'd guess it has more to do with the curvature of the fuselage. If they had space to kill, they would have made the aisles wider. But I haven't seen the new 777 personally
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Old Oct 28, 2018, 7:11 pm
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its kind of hard to explain, but in the seat in front of me which I think was 3a, the part that holds the suite door was not attached at the bottom, and when the guy tried closing his door it also came apart at the top, so the whole piece fell into the aisle until he caught it and messed with it until he got the top snapped back in, the bottom was still not attached to the floor.

Also interesting to note is that in the window seats, there is about a 6 inch gap between the left side of the seat and the window. It would have been really nice if the seat was that much wider, but I guess they wanted it to be the same across the whole product.
Interesting. Is that wear and tear or just someone unfamiliar with the configuration?
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Old Oct 28, 2018, 7:18 pm
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Interesting. Is that wear and tear or just someone unfamiliar with the configuration?
although I noticed some scuff marks on the plastic shells of some of the suites already I’m assuming from things like luggage, It’s hard to tell if the shell wasn’t ever properly fixed in place, or if it was easy for it to “unbuckle” from whatever fixes it to the floor.
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Old Oct 28, 2018, 7:21 pm
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although I noticed some scuff marks on the plastic shells of some of the suites already I’m assuming from things like luggage, It’s hard to tell if the shell wasn’t ever properly fixed in place, or if it was easy for it to “unbuckle” from whatever fixes it to the floor.
Gotcha. As this was a very big investment for Delta, my guess would be it's not falling apart yet, and perhaps the shell is just easy to unbuckle.
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Old Oct 31, 2018, 9:09 am
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The first 772LR, N706DN, designated 7HB, has completed mods at SIN, and is scheduled to fly from SIN>NRT today (early tomorrow SIN time!):

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/n706dn
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MSP-HND-MSP is the first, just started on 01-Nov02918
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