Sep 17, 2018, 11:55 am
Last edit by: N515CR
Delta 777-200ER/LR Conversions to 7HD & 7HB. Pre-mods config is 37J/36W/218Y. For all the ERs and the first LR, post-mods config was initially 28J/48W/220Y (7HD/7HB). The post-mods config for all ERs and LRs is now 28J/48W/90Y+/122Y (7CD/7CB).
Modifications are taking place at SIN and the entry and exit dates are based on SIN time (GMT + 8 hrs). Comfort + installation was done at ATL on all the 7HD>7CD conversions, and on 7106 (7HB>7CB). The remaining 9 LRs had the C + cabins installed at SIN.
777-200ER: 8/8 7CD
N860DA 7001 - Entered Jan 2 2019...finished Feb 3 2019. Entered ATL March 12 2019 for C + installation...finished March 15 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N861DA 7002 - Entered Jan 14 2019...finished Feb 17 2019. Entered ATL March 13 2019 for C + installation...finished March 17 2019. Permanently wfu on 17 March 2020.
N862DA 7003 - Entered Nov 29 2018...finished Jan 5 2019. Entered ATL March 6 2019 for C + installation...finished March 10 2019.
N863DA 7004 - Entered Feb 17 2018...finished June 6 2018. Entered ATL Feb 17 2019 for C + installation...finished March 3 2019. Permanently wfu on 22 September 2020.
N864DA 7005 - Entered Sept 18 2018...finished Oct 22 2018. Entered ATL March 3 2019 for C + installation...finished March 7 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N865DA 7006 - Entered Nov 16 2018...finished Dec 18 2018. Entered ATL Feb 21 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 27 2019.
N866DA 7007 - Entered Oct 24 2018...finished Nov 27 2018. Entered ATL Jan 28 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 16 2019.
N867DA 7008 - Entered Feb 4 2019...finished March 11 2019. Entered ATL March 25 2019 for C + installation...finished March 30 2019.
777-200LR: 10/10 7CB
N701DN 7101 - Entered Sept 14 2019...finished Oct 31 2019...C +.
N702DN 7102 - Entered Nov 8 2019...finished December 29 2019...C +.
N703DN 7103 - Entered Oct 18 2019...finished December 13 2019. C +.
N704DK 7104 - Entered April 4 2019...finished May 4 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N705DN 7105 - Entered Feb 25 2018...finished March 28 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 22 March 2020.
N706DN 7106 - Entered Sept 6 2018...finished Nov 1 2018. Entered ATL for C + installation March 1 2019...C + finished March 14 2019. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N707DN 7107 - Entered March 23 2019...finished April 23 2019...C +.
N708DN 7108 - Entered Dec 20 2019...finished Feb 5 2020...C +.
N709DN 7109 - Entered Jan 3 2020..finished Feb 8 2020...C +.
N710DN 7110 - Entered Nov 18 2019...finished Dec 24 2019...C +.
Modifications are taking place at SIN and the entry and exit dates are based on SIN time (GMT + 8 hrs). Comfort + installation was done at ATL on all the 7HD>7CD conversions, and on 7106 (7HB>7CB). The remaining 9 LRs had the C + cabins installed at SIN.
777-200ER: 8/8 7CD
N860DA 7001 - Entered Jan 2 2019...finished Feb 3 2019. Entered ATL March 12 2019 for C + installation...finished March 15 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N861DA 7002 - Entered Jan 14 2019...finished Feb 17 2019. Entered ATL March 13 2019 for C + installation...finished March 17 2019. Permanently wfu on 17 March 2020.
N862DA 7003 - Entered Nov 29 2018...finished Jan 5 2019. Entered ATL March 6 2019 for C + installation...finished March 10 2019.
N863DA 7004 - Entered Feb 17 2018...finished June 6 2018. Entered ATL Feb 17 2019 for C + installation...finished March 3 2019. Permanently wfu on 22 September 2020.
N864DA 7005 - Entered Sept 18 2018...finished Oct 22 2018. Entered ATL March 3 2019 for C + installation...finished March 7 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N865DA 7006 - Entered Nov 16 2018...finished Dec 18 2018. Entered ATL Feb 21 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 27 2019.
N866DA 7007 - Entered Oct 24 2018...finished Nov 27 2018. Entered ATL Jan 28 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 16 2019.
N867DA 7008 - Entered Feb 4 2019...finished March 11 2019. Entered ATL March 25 2019 for C + installation...finished March 30 2019.
777-200LR: 10/10 7CB
N701DN 7101 - Entered Sept 14 2019...finished Oct 31 2019...C +.
N702DN 7102 - Entered Nov 8 2019...finished December 29 2019...C +.
N703DN 7103 - Entered Oct 18 2019...finished December 13 2019. C +.
N704DK 7104 - Entered April 4 2019...finished May 4 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N705DN 7105 - Entered Feb 25 2018...finished March 28 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 22 March 2020.
N706DN 7106 - Entered Sept 6 2018...finished Nov 1 2018. Entered ATL for C + installation March 1 2019...C + finished March 14 2019. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N707DN 7107 - Entered March 23 2019...finished April 23 2019...C +.
N708DN 7108 - Entered Dec 20 2019...finished Feb 5 2020...C +.
N709DN 7109 - Entered Jan 3 2020..finished Feb 8 2020...C +.
N710DN 7110 - Entered Nov 18 2019...finished Dec 24 2019...C +.
Delta confirms first route with 777 offering Delta One Suites, Premium Select, Comfort+ and Main Cabin: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1949190-tailored-travel-delta-debut-first-aircraft-all-four-seat-experiences-marc.html
777 D1 Suite PS + Comfort+ retrofit consolidated thread
May 10, 2018, 8:41 am
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May 10, 2018, 9:26 am
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May 10, 2018, 10:02 am
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This is a good point. I can't remember where this was said, but for a while, Delta has been "rightsizing" their cabins according to what people will pay rather than providing upgrades to fill almost half the cabin. If you look at United's 773 layout, it appears that just about 1/2 of the aircraft is for the 60 Polaris seats and the remaining 250 - 300 passengers are squeezed into the remaining portion of the aircraft. This is the question you have to ask yourself - while I may have a better upgrade chance on UA, what price do I pay if I get forced into a 3x4x3 seat in economy OR, I may have less of a chance getting an upgrade on Delta, but at least the economy seat is more livable at 3x3x3.
May 10, 2018, 10:45 am
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May 10, 2018, 1:09 pm
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My speculation:
1) Delta wants to people to think they are a "premium" airline - having 18" width Y seats across its widebody fleet helps
2) Delta has a smaller business cabin - just enough seats for people willing to pay business fares and limiting upgrades. That leaves more space on the plane for more economy rows, enabling Delta to achieve similar Y count as other 772 operators.
3) Delta decided to keep the existing Y seats, in order to avoid having to order different Y seats. Plus, Delta would only need to retrofit part of the plane instead of the entire cabin. Saves Delta time and money.
1) Delta wants to people to think they are a "premium" airline - having 18" width Y seats across its widebody fleet helps
2) Delta has a smaller business cabin - just enough seats for people willing to pay business fares and limiting upgrades. That leaves more space on the plane for more economy rows, enabling Delta to achieve similar Y count as other 772 operators.
3) Delta decided to keep the existing Y seats, in order to avoid having to order different Y seats. Plus, Delta would only need to retrofit part of the plane instead of the entire cabin. Saves Delta time and money.
May 10, 2018, 1:38 pm
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My speculation:
1) Delta wants to people to think they are a "premium" airline - having 18" width Y seats across its widebody fleet helps
2) Delta has a smaller business cabin - just enough seats for people willing to pay business fares and limiting upgrades. That leaves more space on the plane for more economy rows, enabling Delta to achieve similar Y count as other 772 operators.
3) Delta decided to keep the existing Y seats, in order to avoid having to order different Y seats. Plus, Delta would only need to retrofit part of the plane instead of the entire cabin. Saves Delta time and money.
1) Delta wants to people to think they are a "premium" airline - having 18" width Y seats across its widebody fleet helps
2) Delta has a smaller business cabin - just enough seats for people willing to pay business fares and limiting upgrades. That leaves more space on the plane for more economy rows, enabling Delta to achieve similar Y count as other 772 operators.
3) Delta decided to keep the existing Y seats, in order to avoid having to order different Y seats. Plus, Delta would only need to retrofit part of the plane instead of the entire cabin. Saves Delta time and money.
May 10, 2018, 7:42 pm
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They could install new IFE & seat covers, and even cushions, but keep the frame, right?
May 10, 2018, 7:46 pm
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May 13, 2018, 8:54 pm
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Looks like the first one to be modded, N863DA, is almost ready to fly back to the US, as it is going on a test hop today:
https://www.flightradar24.com/DAL9985/115ea13b
https://www.flightradar24.com/DAL9985/115ea13b
Last edited by audidudi; May 13, 2018 at 9:50 pm Reason: Edited the test hop info
May 14, 2018, 9:24 am
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Looks like the first one to be modded, N863DA, is almost ready to fly back to the US, as it is going on a test hop today:
https://www.flightradar24.com/DAL9985/115ea13b
https://www.flightradar24.com/DAL9985/115ea13b
May 14, 2018, 10:16 am
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Internally they're saying return to service 6/15. I'd guess it hits a couple hops from SIN to DTW on the way. They'll finish 4 mods by the end of 2018 - 1 LR and 3 ER, and the rest in 2019. Since this program is considered the "mid-life upgrade", I don't see any reason they would keep the old Y seats, and I'm pretty sure they said earlier that they would be replacing every seat on the plane. There's gotta be some weight savings there.
May 19, 2018, 12:48 pm
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Sounds like they might be having some internal delays here.
Just got a call from DL telling me the SYD flight that was loaded as the new 777 from April 1 was incorrect due to timing. She was calling to apologize and manage my expectations of my booking for next April and offer a refund if wanted (which I declined since this was a unicorn award booking at 94k for SYD - LAX - RDU so I'll survive with old D1).
The system has since been updated to reflect this too (seat map is back to regular 777)
Just got a call from DL telling me the SYD flight that was loaded as the new 777 from April 1 was incorrect due to timing. She was calling to apologize and manage my expectations of my booking for next April and offer a refund if wanted (which I declined since this was a unicorn award booking at 94k for SYD - LAX - RDU so I'll survive with old D1).
The system has since been updated to reflect this too (seat map is back to regular 777)
May 19, 2018, 12:54 pm
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Sounds like they might be having some internal delays here.
Just got a call from DL telling me the SYD flight that was loaded as the new 777 from April 1 was incorrect due to timing. She was calling to apologize and manage my expectations of my booking for next April and offer a refund if wanted (which I declined since this was a unicorn award booking at 94k for SYD - LAX - RDU so I'll survive with old D1).
The system has since been updated to reflect this too (seat map is back to regular 777)
Just got a call from DL telling me the SYD flight that was loaded as the new 777 from April 1 was incorrect due to timing. She was calling to apologize and manage my expectations of my booking for next April and offer a refund if wanted (which I declined since this was a unicorn award booking at 94k for SYD - LAX - RDU so I'll survive with old D1).
The system has since been updated to reflect this too (seat map is back to regular 777)
Great customer service!
Jun 4, 2018, 9:09 pm
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N863DA is en route back to the US...first 777 completed with Suites.
https://www.flightradar24.com/DAL9970/119d1505
https://www.flightradar24.com/DAL9970/119d1505