777 D1 Suite Refit - PS + Comfort+

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Delta 777-200ER/LR Conversions to 7HD & 7HB. Pre-mods config is 37J/36W/218Y...Post-mods config is (temporarily) 28J/48W/220Y (7HD/7HB)...and will become 28J/48W/90Y+/122Y (7CD/7CB).

Modifications are taking place at SIN and the entry and exit dates are based on SIN time (GMT + 8 hrs). Comfort + installation was done at ATL on all the 7HD>7CD conversions, and on 7106. The remaining 9 LRs will have the C + cabins installed at SIN.

777-200ER 8/8 7HD...8/8 7CD.
N860DA 7001 - Entered Jan 2 2019; finished Feb 3 2019. Entered ATL March 12 2019 for C + installation; finished March 15 2019.
N861DA 7002 - Entered Jan 14 2019; finished Feb 17 2019. Entered ATL March 13 2019 for C+ installation; finished March 17 2019.
N862DA 7003 - Entered Nov 29 2018; finished Jan 5 2019. Entered ATL March 6 2019 for C+ installation; finished March 10 2019.
N863DA 7004 - Entered Feb 17 2018; finished June 6 2018. Entered ATL Feb 17 2019 for C + installation; finished March 3 2019.
N864DA 7005 - Entered Sept 18 2018; finished Oct 22 2018. Entered ATL March 3 2019 for C+ installation; finished March 7 2019.
N865DA 7006 - Entered Nov 16 2018; finished Dec 18 2018. Entered ATL Feb 21 2019 for C + installation; finished Feb 27 2019.
N866DA 7007 - Entered Oct 24 2018; finished Nov 27 2018. Entered ATL Jan 28 2019 for C + installation; finished Feb 16 2019.
N867DA 7008 - Entered Feb 4 2019: finished March 11 2019. Entered ATL March 25 2019 for C + installation; finished March 30 2019.

777-200LR: 2/10 7HB...2/10 7CB.
N701DN 7101
N702DN 7102
N703DN 7103
N704DK 7104 - Entered April 4 2019; est. exit May 10 2019.
N705DN 7105 - Entered Feb 25 2018; finished March 28 2019. C+ installed at SIN.
N706DN 7106 - Entered Sept 6 2018; finished Nov 1 2018. Entered ATL for C + installation March 1 2019; finished March 14 2019.
N707DN 7107 - Entered March 23 2019; est. exit April 30 2019.
N708DN 7108
N709DN 7109
N710DN 7110

Delta confirms first route with 777 offering Delta One Suites, Premium Select, Comfort+ and Main Cabin: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...nces-marc.html
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Old Jul 1, 18, 12:40 am
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Originally Posted by flying_donkeys12 View Post

Are you sure you flew the A350? If you would have said the suites aren’t much better than A330 then you would have a little credibility, but comparing them to the old cramped 777?? You must be saying this in jest?
lol yes I'm sure. Suites really aren't that nice. I don't get why putting a door on it qualifies it as a suite.
Also I think there is a camera under all of the ife screens, it's kind of creepy.
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Old Jul 1, 18, 6:52 am
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Also I think there is a camera under all of the ife screens
based on what?
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Old Jul 1, 18, 9:50 am
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lol yes I'm sure. Suites really aren't that nice. I don't get why putting a door on it qualifies it as a suite.
Also I think there is a camera under all of the ife screens, it's kind of creepy.
Ok, I agree Delta using the term “suite” is a bit of a stretch. I will say that it was the most comfortable setup in my opinion that I have flown so far on a domestic airline. I absolutely loved the door since it prevented me from having to see in my peripheral Mr. playing with my bare feet guy sitting across from me. I like that you can control the lighting, the side seats have vents, entertainment screen is fantastic and the seat was extremely comfortable. Not a fan of the shoulder harness that disappeared when I unhooked it from the lap belt. FA expected me to go hunting for it when we were landing. I declined. Suite could also have a bit more storage, but everything I want with me I was able to find a place for. Screen may be a tad close for some people,but it allowed me to not wear my glasses which is always a win in my book.
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Old Jul 1, 18, 9:53 am
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Originally Posted by Halloweverybody View Post

lol yes I'm sure. Suites really aren't that nice. I don't get why putting a door on it qualifies it as a suite.
Also I think there is a camera under all of the ife screens, it's kind of creepy.
It's a motion sensor. It's supposed to "wake" the screen up when it senses your hand moving towards it.
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Old Jul 1, 18, 12:39 pm
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This is a good point. I can't remember where this was said, but for a while, Delta has been "rightsizing" their cabins according to what people will pay rather than providing upgrades to fill almost half the cabin. If you look at United's 773 layout, it appears that just about 1/2 of the aircraft is for the 60 Polaris seats and the remaining 250 - 300 passengers are squeezed into the remaining portion of the aircraft. This is the question you have to ask yourself - while I may have a better upgrade chance on UA, what price do I pay if I get forced into a 3x4x3 seat in economy OR, I may have less of a chance getting an upgrade on Delta, but at least the economy seat is more livable at 3x3x3.
Delta has also decided to 'go big' on the P.E. cabin seat count (though not seat width on the A350 alas). Six rows of P.E. is double what AA has on their 772. The decision to 'right-size' J and provide a fairly large P.E. cabin suggests to me that Delta wants to protect per-seat revenue in J, and recognizes that they probably saw good early returns on the PE yield on the A350. I wonder in the next recession if DL will eek out better numbers than UA which may regret such big J cabins?
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Old Jul 1, 18, 12:57 pm
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Originally Posted by RaflW View Post
Delta has also decided to 'go big' on the P.E. cabin seat count (though not seat width on the A350 alas). Six rows of P.E. is double what AA has on their 772. The decision to 'right-size' J and provide a fairly large P.E. cabin suggests to me that Delta wants to protect per-seat revenue in J, and recognizes that they probably saw good early returns on the PE yield on the A350. I wonder in the next recession if DL will eek out better numbers than UA which may regret such big J cabins?
DL J cabins keep getting smaller and smaller. Most 763s are now 26J with the rest to be converted soon or be retired, the 764s are supposedly getting D1 suites which will definitely lower the # of J seats, and the 777s have gone from 44J to 37J and now all the way to just 28J. I definitely think DL is trying harder than ever to make sure every pax in D1 is paying and not using an instrument UG or having non-rev parties up in D1.
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Old Jul 1, 18, 1:15 pm
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DL J cabins keep getting smaller and smaller. I definitely think DL is trying harder than ever to make sure every pax in D1 is paying and not using an instrument UG or having non-rev parties up in D1.
This is exactly what is happening and all diamond medallions should be worried if you value guc at all. It is soon going to be virtually impossible to upgrade into d1. And guc will be relegated to the premium select cabin.
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Old Jul 2, 18, 5:56 am
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Originally Posted by MCO Flyer View Post


DL J cabins keep getting smaller and smaller. Most 763s are now 26J with the rest to be converted soon or be retired, the 764s are supposedly getting D1 suites which will definitely lower the # of J seats, and the 777s have gone from 44J to 37J and now all the way to just 28J. I definitely think DL is trying harder than ever to make sure every pax in D1 is paying and not using an instrument UG or having non-rev parties up in D1.
Where has it been said 764s are getting Suites? They're too wide to install on 767s.
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I'm going to be around 120K MQM this year and will stay there to roll over. I've got the AX DL Res card so already get into the lounge so will use AA/BA on some trips. Flying in the US I'm good with an aisle or window in C+. Really like DL but I fly out of MSP and the only thing I really got out of it was some good golf cart rides on a couple tight connections (no Porsche though - haha) with UG's tough. If I "think" C+ I'm never disappointed!!!!!!! Board early and settle in followed by a free drink. If I want FC then I find a good fare on DL or AA and buy it. If I want J to Europe or Asia look for the best deal I can find on SkyTeam or OneWorld and buy it. UG's have clearly dropped but in general so have J fares if one looks carefully. The utility and worth of elite status is still there but the deliverables and its use have really changed and especially in the last 2-3 years.
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I'm going to be around 120K MQM this year and will stay there to roll over. I've got the AX DL Res card so already get into the lounge so will use AA/BA on some trips. Flying in the US I'm good with an aisle or window in C+. Really like DL but I fly out of MSP and the only thing I really got out of it was some good golf cart rides on a couple tight connections (no Porsche though - haha) with UG's tough. If I "think" C+ I'm never disappointed!!!!!!! Board early and settle in followed by a free drink. If I want FC then I find a good fare on DL or AA and buy it. If I want J to Europe or Asia look for the best deal I can find on SkyTeam or OneWorld and buy it. UG's have clearly dropped but in general so have J fares if one looks carefully. The utility and worth of elite status is still there but the deliverables and its use have really changed and especially in the last 2-3 years.
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I thought relevant to this post before mine.


"This is exactly what is happening and all diamond medallions should be worried if you value guc at all. It is soon going to be virtually impossible to upgrade into d1. And guc will be relegated to the premium select cabin".

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Originally Posted by flyerCO View Post
Where has it been said 764s are getting Suites? They're too wide to install on 767s.
While I have no idea whether DL will install Suites on the 764 (though they are going in for a refurbishment in 2019), it would be possible if they went to a 1-1-1 configuration...this would reduce D1 seat count by about 25%, close to the 24% reduction seen on the reconfigured 777 today. Also while not a direct replacement for the 744, the A359 did take over the 744 routes which reduced the D1 seat count by 33% on those particular flights...so it's not inconceivable that the 764 gets the Suites as well...
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Originally Posted by ClipperDelta View Post
While I have no idea whether DL will install Suites on the 764 (though they are going in for a refurbishment in 2019), it would be possible if they went to a 1-1-1 configuration...this would reduce D1 seat count by about 25%, close to the 24% reduction seen on the reconfigured 777 today. Also while not a direct replacement for the 744, the A359 did take over the 744 routes which reduced the D1 seat count by 33% on those particular flights...so it's not inconceivable that the 764 gets the Suites as well...
DL should take a look at the Polaris seats in the updated UA 763ERs. It's a 1-1-1- configuration and it works brilliantly. If DL can even come close to matching it, then they'll have a winner!
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Old Jul 2, 18, 10:27 am
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Originally Posted by audidudi View Post
DL should take a look at the Polaris seats in the updated UA 763ERs. It's a 1-1-1- configuration and it works brilliantly. If DL can even come close to matching it, then they'll have a winner!
I'd love if they did this. While UA is awful in general, IMO anyway, they do have a winning seat.
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Old Jul 2, 18, 10:30 am
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Originally Posted by ClipperDelta View Post
While I have no idea whether DL will install Suites on the 764 (though they are going in for a refurbishment in 2019), it would be possible if they went to a 1-1-1 configuration...this would reduce D1 seat count by about 25%, close to the 24% reduction seen on the reconfigured 777 today. Also while not a direct replacement for the 744, the A359 did take over the 744 routes which reduced the D1 seat count by 33% on those particular flights...so it's not inconceivable that the 764 gets the Suites as well...
However the seat would still be too wide for the window sides. It would extended past end of bulkhead.
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