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Delta 777-200ER/LR Conversions to 7HD & 7HB. Pre-mods config is 37J/36W/218Y. For all the ERs and the first LR, post-mods config was initially 28J/48W/220Y (7HD/7HB). The post-mods config for all ERs and LRs is now 28J/48W/90Y+/122Y (7CD/7CB).

Modifications are taking place at SIN and the entry and exit dates are based on SIN time (GMT + 8 hrs). Comfort + installation was done at ATL on all the 7HD>7CD conversions, and on 7106 (7HB>7CB). The remaining 9 LRs had the C + cabins installed at SIN.

777-200ER: 8/8 7CD
N860DA 7001 - Entered Jan 2 2019...finished Feb 3 2019. Entered ATL March 12 2019 for C + installation...finished March 15 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N861DA 7002 - Entered Jan 14 2019...finished Feb 17 2019. Entered ATL March 13 2019 for C + installation...finished March 17 2019. Permanently wfu on 17 March 2020.
N862DA 7003 - Entered Nov 29 2018...finished Jan 5 2019. Entered ATL March 6 2019 for C + installation...finished March 10 2019.
N863DA 7004 - Entered Feb 17 2018...finished June 6 2018. Entered ATL Feb 17 2019 for C + installation...finished March 3 2019. Permanently wfu on 22 September 2020.
N864DA 7005 - Entered Sept 18 2018...finished Oct 22 2018. Entered ATL March 3 2019 for C + installation...finished March 7 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N865DA 7006 - Entered Nov 16 2018...finished Dec 18 2018. Entered ATL Feb 21 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 27 2019.
N866DA 7007 - Entered Oct 24 2018...finished Nov 27 2018. Entered ATL Jan 28 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 16 2019.
N867DA 7008 - Entered Feb 4 2019...finished March 11 2019. Entered ATL March 25 2019 for C + installation...finished March 30 2019.

777-200LR: 10/10 7CB
N701DN 7101 - Entered Sept 14 2019...finished Oct 31 2019...C +.
N702DN 7102 - Entered Nov 8 2019...finished December 29 2019...C +.
N703DN 7103 - Entered Oct 18 2019...finished December 13 2019. C +.
N704DK 7104 - Entered April 4 2019...finished May 4 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N705DN 7105 - Entered Feb 25 2018...finished March 28 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 22 March 2020.
N706DN 7106 - Entered Sept 6 2018...finished Nov 1 2018. Entered ATL for C + installation March 1 2019...C + finished March 14 2019. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N707DN 7107 - Entered March 23 2019...finished April 23 2019...C +.
N708DN 7108 - Entered Dec 20 2019...finished Feb 5 2020...C +.
N709DN 7109 - Entered Jan 3 2020..finished Feb 8 2020...C +.
N710DN 7110 - Entered Nov 18 2019...finished Dec 24 2019...C +.

Delta confirms first route with 777 offering Delta One Suites, Premium Select, Comfort+ and Main Cabin: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1949190-tailored-travel-delta-debut-first-aircraft-all-four-seat-experiences-marc.html

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Nov 23, 2017, 11:02 am

#31

jamiestr

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Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

Seriously, the reviews I've read are good and Delta edged out Polaris and other products in the Crystal Cabin award. Why don't we take the time to fly it instead of bickering?

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Nov 23, 2017, 4:21 pm

#32

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Remember these D1 Suites in the A350 and coming in the B777, are a BUSINESS CLASS, not FIRST CLASS, product.. All the other airlines that have/are getting Suites are a FIRST CLASS product. There's no comparison between the two Classes at all, nor is DL trying to say there is. It's comparing apples to oranges!

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Nov 23, 2017, 7:51 pm

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Originally Posted by bubbashow

it's like putting whipped cream on dung and calling it chocolate mousse. It's a same-old, same-old feet under the armrest business class seat with a half "door"that further reduces space. It is not a "suite" by any stretch of the definition in the airline business. For a site that is so uber-critical of everything Delta marketing, a lot of you (I guess you've never seen the real thing) have bought this hook, line, and sinker.

I don't understand how a comment like this is supposed to be helpful. People are excited for something new and you're telling them that they're wrong? This is a clear upgrade. If you don't like it then there's no need to tear everyone else down. I'm incredibly excited about the door. I don't like feeling so exposed when sleeping, as if I'm literally in the aisle.

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Nov 24, 2017, 6:43 am

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Originally Posted by audidudi

We all know that-but when Delta chose to use the word "Suite" they brought this upon themselves.

Nov 24, 2017, 8:09 am

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Originally Posted by DLATL777

We all know that-but when Delta chose to use the word "Suite" they brought this upon themselves.

Wow, how dare they try and bring some of the first class experience to business class! Terrible, terrible! /s

Nov 24, 2017, 5:38 pm

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Originally Posted by DLATL777

We all know that-but when Delta chose to use the word "Suite" they brought this upon themselves.

Marketing 101 - Use buzzwords.

Nov 24, 2017, 8:15 pm

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Originally Posted by C W

Wow, how dare they try and bring some of the first class experience to business class! Terrible, terrible! /s

this is by no means a first class experience. It is a door further limiting a limited business class seat. It preys on the stupid and naive. Fly a true suite and tell me this is anything more than a buzzword. Though there are many on here impressed witn their "brag" tags, so I guess it found it's audience.

Nov 24, 2017, 8:17 pm

#38

CalebMCO

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Originally Posted by DLATL777

We all know that-but when Delta chose to use the word "Suite" they brought this upon themselves.

And what, precisely, has Delta brought upon themselves? A few people on an anonymous Internet forum clutching their pearls because they used the word ‘suite? British Airways, United, Virgin (and I’m sure there are many others) use ‘suite’ to describe seats without a door - without causing attacks of the vapors on FlyerTalk.

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Nov 24, 2017, 9:04 pm

#39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bubbashow

It preys on the stupid and naive. Fly a true suite and tell me this is anything more than a buzzword. Though there are many on here impressed witn their "brag" tags, so I guess it found it's audience.

Or maybe we're able to see past the name, and see the product for what it is: a pretty decent business class product.

You, however, are apparently preoccupied by the name and unable to process any other information.

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Nov 24, 2017, 9:31 pm

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Originally Posted by bubbashow

Fly a true suite

Still waiting for that definition.

Nov 27, 2017, 9:50 am

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I am not a business person, I do not claim to understand marketing, or business in general, I am a Physician which means that I am god awful at business and to a great degree that is very true.

While I have not flown on the "Suite" yet and probably won't for a good long while, I do not see the harm in calling it a suite and leaving it up to the individual passenger to determine if it is in fact a suite or not, each person deserves their own opinion and can form it however he/she may like.

With that said, I wonder why is it even needed, does competition require it or is it more a case of trying to be on the cutting edge? I have flown on a few different DELTA One seats and all seemed to varying degree good enough with my favorite probably being the 333, but I never said to myself a door would make this flight better.

Having said all of that I have never experienced a door at my seat, so maybe it is materially better than a seat without one, but I was happy enough with the cradle Business Elite seats of yesteryear, I truly slept well in those seats, so maybe my judgement is not that of the majority.

Nov 27, 2017, 10:11 am

#42

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Originally Posted by kmersh

I am not a business person, I do not claim to understand marketing, or business in general, I am a Physician.........I was happy enough with the cradle Business Elite seats of yesteryear, I truly slept well in those seats.

Alright doc, be honest, what are you prescribing yourself before the flight????

Nov 27, 2017, 10:28 am

#43

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Originally Posted by kmersh

While I have not flown on the "Suite" yet and probably won't for a good long while, I do not see the harm in calling it a suite and leaving it up to the individual passenger to determine if it is in fact a suite or not, each person deserves their own opinion and can form it however he/she may like.

For what it's worth, Virgin Australia calls its business class seat a "suite." Looks to me like the SuperDiamond, similar to DL's A330 seats.

Is anyone on the VA board having a hissy fit about their "suite"?

Nov 27, 2017, 11:26 am

#44

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Originally Posted by ijgordon

Still waiting for that definition.

I will let you Google image search yourself. Fly on one and you will know the difference.

If it makes you FEEL special to have that door on a business class seat, more power to you.

Nov 27, 2017, 11:28 am

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Originally Posted by jamiestr

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

Seriously, the reviews I've read are good and Delta edged out Polaris and other products in the Crystal Cabin award. Why don't we take the time to fly it instead of bickering?

As long as D1 upgrade doesn't include a change in Y, good that Delta edged out United. While it's unlikely I will be flying Delta's Delta One or United's Polaris, I would definitely choose Delta's 9 abreast Y over United's 10. 18.5 inches width is generous in comparison to United's 17 inches in the upcoming configuration for its international 777 fleet.

Jiburi

Last edited by jiburi; Nov 27, 2017 at 1:05 pm