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Delta 777-200ER/LR Conversions to 7HD & 7HB. Pre-mods config is 37J/36W/218Y. For all the ERs and the first LR, post-mods config was initially 28J/48W/220Y (7HD/7HB). The post-mods config for all ERs and LRs is now 28J/48W/90Y+/122Y (7CD/7CB).

Modifications are taking place at SIN and the entry and exit dates are based on SIN time (GMT + 8 hrs). Comfort + installation was done at ATL on all the 7HD>7CD conversions, and on 7106 (7HB>7CB). The remaining 9 LRs had the C + cabins installed at SIN.

777-200ER: 8/8 7CD
N860DA 7001 - Entered Jan 2 2019...finished Feb 3 2019. Entered ATL March 12 2019 for C + installation...finished March 15 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N861DA 7002 - Entered Jan 14 2019...finished Feb 17 2019. Entered ATL March 13 2019 for C + installation...finished March 17 2019. Permanently wfu on 17 March 2020.
N862DA 7003 - Entered Nov 29 2018...finished Jan 5 2019. Entered ATL March 6 2019 for C + installation...finished March 10 2019.
N863DA 7004 - Entered Feb 17 2018...finished June 6 2018. Entered ATL Feb 17 2019 for C + installation...finished March 3 2019. Permanently wfu on 22 September 2020.
N864DA 7005 - Entered Sept 18 2018...finished Oct 22 2018. Entered ATL March 3 2019 for C + installation...finished March 7 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N865DA 7006 - Entered Nov 16 2018...finished Dec 18 2018. Entered ATL Feb 21 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 27 2019.
N866DA 7007 - Entered Oct 24 2018...finished Nov 27 2018. Entered ATL Jan 28 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 16 2019.
N867DA 7008 - Entered Feb 4 2019...finished March 11 2019. Entered ATL March 25 2019 for C + installation...finished March 30 2019.

777-200LR: 10/10 7CB
N701DN 7101 - Entered Sept 14 2019...finished Oct 31 2019...C +.
N702DN 7102 - Entered Nov 8 2019...finished December 29 2019...C +.
N703DN 7103 - Entered Oct 18 2019...finished December 13 2019. C +.
N704DK 7104 - Entered April 4 2019...finished May 4 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N705DN 7105 - Entered Feb 25 2018...finished March 28 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 22 March 2020.
N706DN 7106 - Entered Sept 6 2018...finished Nov 1 2018. Entered ATL for C + installation March 1 2019...C + finished March 14 2019. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N707DN 7107 - Entered March 23 2019...finished April 23 2019...C +.
N708DN 7108 - Entered Dec 20 2019...finished Feb 5 2020...C +.
N709DN 7109 - Entered Jan 3 2020..finished Feb 8 2020...C +.
N710DN 7110 - Entered Nov 18 2019...finished Dec 24 2019...C +.

Delta confirms first route with 777 offering Delta One Suites, Premium Select, Comfort+ and Main Cabin: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1949190-tailored-travel-delta-debut-first-aircraft-all-four-seat-experiences-marc.html
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Old Nov 22, 2017, 8:09 am
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Originally Posted by kmersh
Granted, I have only ever flown the 777 Business class domestically (mostly from ATL to the West Coast), but what makes it so crappy?

I do not find it uncomfortable to sit in, though admittedly I have never tried sleeping in it.

Is it the age of the seat or position of the seat?

I am contemplating taking a flight in DELTA One on a 777 and am curious as to what makes it less desirable as I do have some other comparable options that I could choose.

The 777 was DL's first herringbone configuration and it was a huge leap forward for DL's J class when it was first released. The two main issues people often cite are:

1) DL has not moved to a reverse herringbone model, (see the A330 and 747 seat maps) where pax in the center face inward an pax at the windows face the window, as opposed to everyone facing the aisle. This has a more private feel as opposed to feeling like you are kind of sitting in the aisle.

2) The seats are just starting to show their age. It is not infrequent for people to report seats have broken parts, etc.

If you have the option to fly on a A330 or 747 (while they are still around) instead of the 777, I would suggest you do. Many people would still say that the 777 is a better product than the 767. In any case, the 777 will not be a bad ride.
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Old Nov 22, 2017, 8:49 am
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Originally Posted by bubbashow
it's like putting whipped cream on dung and calling it chocolate mousse. It's a same-old, same-old feet under the armrest business class seat with a half "door"that further reduces space. It is not a "suite" by any stretch of the definition in the airline business. For a site that is so uber-critical of everything Delta marketing, a lot of you (I guess you've never seen the real thing) have bought this hook, line, and sinker.
I'm sorry, but have you flown the product yet? The reviews have been glowing, even from those who are not Delta "loyalists". Regardless, your opinion is your own, but I would love to fly on a plane with a brand new interior instead of one that is showing its age, and one that would make it easier to talk to my travel companion instead of seats angled away.
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Old Nov 22, 2017, 11:52 am
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Originally Posted by bubbashow
it's like putting whipped cream on dung and calling it chocolate mousse. It's a same-old, same-old feet under the armrest business class seat with a half "door"that further reduces space. It is not a "suite" by any stretch of the definition in the airline business. For a site that is so uber-critical of everything Delta marketing, a lot of you (I guess you've never seen the real thing) have bought this hook, line, and sinker.
This is a ridiculous analogy. I don't know why it's so important to you that everyone hates the suites as much as you do. But your opinion is definitely not widely held. You should consider counselling maybe.
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Old Nov 22, 2017, 12:13 pm
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I don't dislike the suites, I'm sure they are great. I just don't see the benefit of having a door that everyone can see over anyway.
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Old Nov 22, 2017, 1:50 pm
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I don't understand the point of having a door that someone standing or walking in the aisle can see over. There's no (additional) privacy.
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Old Nov 22, 2017, 1:55 pm
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Originally Posted by guller
I don't dislike the suites, I'm sure they are great. I just don't see the benefit of having a door that everyone can see over anyway.
Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
I don't understand the point of having a door that someone standing or walking in the aisle can see over. There's no (additional) privacy.
You could always bring some gaffers tape, ask for a couple extra blankets, and make a fort. That'd be pretty cool.
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Old Nov 22, 2017, 2:04 pm
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Regarding the door. When you are in full-flat, you are fairly low to the ground. Rather than having the knee of someone walking thru the aisle just a few inches from your face, you can create a barrier there.

When you are sound asleep, it eliminates the possibility that someone walking by can easily touch your body. I personally know many people who will appreciate a feature like that, they will be more comfortable falling asleep knowing there is some barrier there.

But look, if you don't want to use the door, then don't use the door. No law or commandment says you have to close the door. Seriously people, it's no big deal.
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Old Nov 22, 2017, 2:29 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
I don't understand the point of having a door that someone standing or walking in the aisle can see over. There's no (additional) privacy.

It's about not having the person across the aisle be in direct eyesight the whole time.

Also, with the door, I'd personally feel comfortable changing into PJ pants under the blanket.
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Old Nov 22, 2017, 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by tvtd
You could always bring some gaffers tape, ask for a couple extra blankets, and make a fort. That'd be pretty cool.
I am going to do this ^
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Old Nov 23, 2017, 2:48 am
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Originally Posted by kdavis527
I'm sorry, but have you flown the product yet? The reviews have been glowing, even from those who are not Delta "loyalists". Regardless, your opinion is your own, but I would love to fly on a plane with a brand new interior instead of one that is showing its age, and one that would make it easier to talk to my travel companion instead of seats angled away.
The many I've read have not been glowing. They might enjoy it, but the general response I've read have been, Meh. It's by no means bad. However it's lackluster, with the whole selling point being a door. A door that doesn't go high enough to give privacy, and doesn't shut all the way, reducing privacy even more. This is nowhere close to being a suite by any other airline standard.
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Old Nov 23, 2017, 6:42 am
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
The many I've read have not been glowing. They might enjoy it, but the general response I've read have been, Meh. It's by no means bad. However it's lackluster, with the whole selling point being a door. A door that doesn't go high enough to give privacy, and doesn't shut all the way, reducing privacy even more. This is nowhere close to being a suite by any other airline standard.
Ding ding! We have a winner!

Is anyone else going to mention the Irony that delta ran away from the ATL-DXB route whining like a 6 year old child about "the evil ( far superior) Emirates" but has the audacity to try and compete with a similar premium product by calling it a "Suite". Hilarious Delta, you couldn't be anymore obtuse.
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Old Nov 23, 2017, 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by bubbashow
It is not a "suite" by any stretch of the definition in the airline business.
Pray tell, what is the definition of a "suite" in the airline business?, and provide your source please.
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Old Nov 23, 2017, 8:55 am
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[QUOTE=flyerCO;29092093] A door that doesn't go high enough to give privacy, and doesn't shut all the way, reducing privacy even more./QUOTE]


I have not read anything about the door not shutting all the way. Where did you see this?
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Old Nov 23, 2017, 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by DLATL777
Ding ding! We have a winner!

Is anyone else going to mention the Irony that delta ran away from the ATL-DXB route whining like a 6 year old child about "the evil ( far superior) Emirates" but has the audacity to try and compete with a similar premium product by calling it a "Suite". Hilarious Delta, you couldn't be anymore obtuse.
Are you actually comparing D1S to EK F?

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I have not read anything about the door not shutting all the way. Where did you see this?

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Old Nov 23, 2017, 10:54 am
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Is there ANYONE on this thread who has actually flown in this seat? Thought not.
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