Sep 17, 2018, 11:55 am
Last edit by: N515CR
Delta 777-200ER/LR Conversions to 7HD & 7HB. Pre-mods config is 37J/36W/218Y. For all the ERs and the first LR, post-mods config was initially 28J/48W/220Y (7HD/7HB). The post-mods config for all ERs and LRs is now 28J/48W/90Y+/122Y (7CD/7CB).
Modifications are taking place at SIN and the entry and exit dates are based on SIN time (GMT + 8 hrs). Comfort + installation was done at ATL on all the 7HD>7CD conversions, and on 7106 (7HB>7CB). The remaining 9 LRs had the C + cabins installed at SIN.
777-200ER: 8/8 7CD
N860DA 7001 - Entered Jan 2 2019...finished Feb 3 2019. Entered ATL March 12 2019 for C + installation...finished March 15 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N861DA 7002 - Entered Jan 14 2019...finished Feb 17 2019. Entered ATL March 13 2019 for C + installation...finished March 17 2019. Permanently wfu on 17 March 2020.
N862DA 7003 - Entered Nov 29 2018...finished Jan 5 2019. Entered ATL March 6 2019 for C + installation...finished March 10 2019.
N863DA 7004 - Entered Feb 17 2018...finished June 6 2018. Entered ATL Feb 17 2019 for C + installation...finished March 3 2019. Permanently wfu on 22 September 2020.
N864DA 7005 - Entered Sept 18 2018...finished Oct 22 2018. Entered ATL March 3 2019 for C + installation...finished March 7 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N865DA 7006 - Entered Nov 16 2018...finished Dec 18 2018. Entered ATL Feb 21 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 27 2019.
N866DA 7007 - Entered Oct 24 2018...finished Nov 27 2018. Entered ATL Jan 28 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 16 2019.
N867DA 7008 - Entered Feb 4 2019...finished March 11 2019. Entered ATL March 25 2019 for C + installation...finished March 30 2019.
777-200LR: 10/10 7CB
N701DN 7101 - Entered Sept 14 2019...finished Oct 31 2019...C +.
N702DN 7102 - Entered Nov 8 2019...finished December 29 2019...C +.
N703DN 7103 - Entered Oct 18 2019...finished December 13 2019. C +.
N704DK 7104 - Entered April 4 2019...finished May 4 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N705DN 7105 - Entered Feb 25 2018...finished March 28 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 22 March 2020.
N706DN 7106 - Entered Sept 6 2018...finished Nov 1 2018. Entered ATL for C + installation March 1 2019...C + finished March 14 2019. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N707DN 7107 - Entered March 23 2019...finished April 23 2019...C +.
N708DN 7108 - Entered Dec 20 2019...finished Feb 5 2020...C +.
N709DN 7109 - Entered Jan 3 2020..finished Feb 8 2020...C +.
N710DN 7110 - Entered Nov 18 2019...finished Dec 24 2019...C +.
Modifications are taking place at SIN and the entry and exit dates are based on SIN time (GMT + 8 hrs). Comfort + installation was done at ATL on all the 7HD>7CD conversions, and on 7106 (7HB>7CB). The remaining 9 LRs had the C + cabins installed at SIN.
777-200ER: 8/8 7CD
N860DA 7001 - Entered Jan 2 2019...finished Feb 3 2019. Entered ATL March 12 2019 for C + installation...finished March 15 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N861DA 7002 - Entered Jan 14 2019...finished Feb 17 2019. Entered ATL March 13 2019 for C + installation...finished March 17 2019. Permanently wfu on 17 March 2020.
N862DA 7003 - Entered Nov 29 2018...finished Jan 5 2019. Entered ATL March 6 2019 for C + installation...finished March 10 2019.
N863DA 7004 - Entered Feb 17 2018...finished June 6 2018. Entered ATL Feb 17 2019 for C + installation...finished March 3 2019. Permanently wfu on 22 September 2020.
N864DA 7005 - Entered Sept 18 2018...finished Oct 22 2018. Entered ATL March 3 2019 for C + installation...finished March 7 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N865DA 7006 - Entered Nov 16 2018...finished Dec 18 2018. Entered ATL Feb 21 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 27 2019.
N866DA 7007 - Entered Oct 24 2018...finished Nov 27 2018. Entered ATL Jan 28 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 16 2019.
N867DA 7008 - Entered Feb 4 2019...finished March 11 2019. Entered ATL March 25 2019 for C + installation...finished March 30 2019.
777-200LR: 10/10 7CB
N701DN 7101 - Entered Sept 14 2019...finished Oct 31 2019...C +.
N702DN 7102 - Entered Nov 8 2019...finished December 29 2019...C +.
N703DN 7103 - Entered Oct 18 2019...finished December 13 2019. C +.
N704DK 7104 - Entered April 4 2019...finished May 4 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N705DN 7105 - Entered Feb 25 2018...finished March 28 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 22 March 2020.
N706DN 7106 - Entered Sept 6 2018...finished Nov 1 2018. Entered ATL for C + installation March 1 2019...C + finished March 14 2019. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N707DN 7107 - Entered March 23 2019...finished April 23 2019...C +.
N708DN 7108 - Entered Dec 20 2019...finished Feb 5 2020...C +.
N709DN 7109 - Entered Jan 3 2020..finished Feb 8 2020...C +.
N710DN 7110 - Entered Nov 18 2019...finished Dec 24 2019...C +.
Delta confirms first route with 777 offering Delta One Suites, Premium Select, Comfort+ and Main Cabin: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1949190-tailored-travel-delta-debut-first-aircraft-all-four-seat-experiences-marc.html
777 D1 Suite PS + Comfort+ retrofit consolidated thread
Jul 7, 2018, 10:56 am
#196
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I flew on United old 777 to Brussels last month. Had an aisle seat. Nothing wrong with it. The Delta One Hereingbone seat feels like a coffin in comparison and I hate setting towards an aisle cockeyed. I also though the content on the IFE and screen on DL was pathetic. So yeah. I personally liked the 777 on UA better than the Old Delta One. As far as food. I just had an awesome jumbo shrimp Thai Curry on UA and that’s the 4th Polaris Flight in a row where I had restraint quality food. I’ll attach US vs DL good picture. It’s really not a close call. UA wins
Jul 7, 2018, 11:04 am
#197
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I flew on United old 777 to Brussels last month. Had an aisle seat. Nothing wrong with it. The Delta One Hereingbone seat feels like a coffin in comparison and I hate setting towards an aisle cockeyed. I also though the content on the IFE and screen on DL was pathetic. So yeah. I personally liked the 777 on UA better than the Old Delta One. As far as food. I just had an awesome jumbo shrimp Thai Curry on UA and that’s the 4th Polaris Flight in a row where I had restraint quality food. I’ll attach US vs DL good picture. It’s really not a close call. UA wins
Jul 7, 2018, 11:24 am
#198
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I am DM with Delta... i matched to United 1K a few months ago. Im sorry if you think my opnions are not credible. I fly to and from work (whever they need me) each Wednesday workingn 7 days on, 7 days off. Thats 26 shifts per year, 52 one way tickets booked. Last year was $40K spent (all tickets are last minute one ways, sometimes Intl) I know thats not a lot of spend compared to UA GS or DL 360 but I have experienced status on all the airlines now fore the passed few years and I have my likes and dis likes. I have come to despise DL. They did not "hurt" me but they have never been good at common sense customer service.
Jul 7, 2018, 3:20 pm
#199
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The exclusivity agreement is specific to other North American carriers only.
"United has exclusive North American rights to the layout, while the new Zodiac Optima will be available to airlines in the rest of the world."
"United has exclusive North American rights to the layout, while the new Zodiac Optima will be available to airlines in the rest of the world."
Jul 8, 2018, 9:59 pm
#200
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I mean, to be fair, there are some valid points beneath all the hyperbole. SkyMiles is crap and DL's int'l J lounge situation is crap. The 767 J seats aren't great and there are a lot of planes with them.
Jul 8, 2018, 10:19 pm
#201
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AA -- what are they at 4 different J seats on the 777 alone plus the 788 and 789 seats, the 763 seats, and 757 seats (plus the A321T seats)? Plus half the 777 and 788 seats shake the seats nearby like crazy when you move them though at least they are all 1-2-1. 77W and the Cirrus 772 J seats are among the best J offered by US majors (flew the Cirrus 772 on HND - LAX last December and slept for ~7 hours).
DL -- 764 is ancient and the 763 seats aren't great though at least they are 1-2-1. 777 is ancient but getting D1. A330 and A350 are on par if not better than AA/UA top options.
UA -- Polaris is nice but majority of the time you aren't getting a Polaris E2E experience. 788/789 will be 2-2-2 for the foreseeable future, many 777 remain 2-4-2 if not 2-2-2.
Jul 9, 2018, 8:54 am
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I don't disagree but all the majors have warts on the hard product:
AA -- what are they at 4 different J seats on the 777 alone plus the 788 and 789 seats, the 763 seats, and 757 seats (plus the A321T seats)? Plus half the 777 and 788 seats shake the seats nearby like crazy when you move them though at least they are all 1-2-1. 77W and the Cirrus 772 J seats are among the best J offered by US majors (flew the Cirrus 772 on HND - LAX last December and slept for ~7 hours).
AA -- what are they at 4 different J seats on the 777 alone plus the 788 and 789 seats, the 763 seats, and 757 seats (plus the A321T seats)? Plus half the 777 and 788 seats shake the seats nearby like crazy when you move them though at least they are all 1-2-1. 77W and the Cirrus 772 J seats are among the best J offered by US majors (flew the Cirrus 772 on HND - LAX last December and slept for ~7 hours).
Jul 9, 2018, 10:43 pm
#203
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Given the size of Delta's 767 fleet, I don't think they have a choice but to go down to 1-1-1 with the suite. Having the 1-2-1 Vantage seat will simply not be competitive given AA is phasing their 767s out and UA going 1-1-1 (albeit a more space dense design).
Jul 15, 2018, 7:04 pm
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Is anyone tracking progress of the modifications? Maybe a list of N-numbers and planned ‘ completed mods, as in past modification campaigns?
Curious how many are done and when the next wave will be entering service. I’m guessing few or none will go out during summer and maybe the next wave is likely to go in maybe September-October.
Curious how many are done and when the next wave will be entering service. I’m guessing few or none will go out during summer and maybe the next wave is likely to go in maybe September-October.
Jul 16, 2018, 11:58 pm
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Is anyone tracking progress of the modifications? Maybe a list of N-numbers and planned ‘ completed mods, as in past modification campaigns?
Curious how many are done and when the next wave will be entering service. I’m guessing few or none will go out during summer and maybe the next wave is likely to go in maybe September-October.
Curious how many are done and when the next wave will be entering service. I’m guessing few or none will go out during summer and maybe the next wave is likely to go in maybe September-October.
Jul 19, 2018, 7:43 pm
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It will be interesting to see what happens to N863DA. Starting Saturday, DTW-PEK goes back to daily A350 service and there currently are no scheduled modded 777 flights from Sunday on.
Jul 29, 2018, 11:09 pm
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Routesonline has the full list for the W18 schedule that runs through March 2019. Still holding out hope SYD gets added back in for Spring in time for my SYD - LAX in April.
The MSP - HND is confusing, don't think it can do a same day turn but they LAX - HND they just added is the A359 so they can't swap at HND like they currently do with the 777. So it seems like an odd addition to be a 777. Would have thought adding an A359 that runs to both CDG and HND from MSP would make more sense. Perhaps that's coming in short order (perhaps 777 going to LAX once the LR frames come online at which point it could go MSP - HND - LAX - SYD - LAX - HND - MSP).
Assume all of these will be 772ER and not LR (hence no JNB or SYD yet)
Link: https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...tions-for-w18/
eff 16NOV18 Minneapolis/St. Paul – Tokyo Haneda
eff 13DEC18 Atlanta – Paris CDG DL082/083 (until 29MAR19)
eff 13DEC18 Minneapolis/St. Paul – Paris CDG (until 30MAR19)
eff 01MAR19 Atlanta – Tokyo Narita (Originally listed from 31MAR19, but later removed)
eff 13DEC18 Atlanta – Paris CDG DL082/083 (until 29MAR19)
eff 13DEC18 Minneapolis/St. Paul – Paris CDG (until 30MAR19)
eff 01MAR19 Atlanta – Tokyo Narita (Originally listed from 31MAR19, but later removed)
Assume all of these will be 772ER and not LR (hence no JNB or SYD yet)
Link: https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...tions-for-w18/
Last edited by Duke787; Jul 29, 2018 at 11:15 pm
Jul 30, 2018, 9:39 am
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Routesonline has the full list for the W18 schedule that runs through March 2019. Still holding out hope SYD gets added back in for Spring in time for my SYD - LAX in April.
The MSP - HND is confusing, don't think it can do a same day turn but they LAX - HND they just added is the A359 so they can't swap at HND like they currently do with the 777. So it seems like an odd addition to be a 777. Would have thought adding an A359 that runs to both CDG and HND from MSP would make more sense. Perhaps that's coming in short order (perhaps 777 going to LAX once the LR frames come online at which point it could go MSP - HND - LAX - SYD - LAX - HND - MSP).
Assume all of these will be 772ER and not LR (hence no JNB or SYD yet)
Link: https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...tions-for-w18/
The MSP - HND is confusing, don't think it can do a same day turn but they LAX - HND they just added is the A359 so they can't swap at HND like they currently do with the 777. So it seems like an odd addition to be a 777. Would have thought adding an A359 that runs to both CDG and HND from MSP would make more sense. Perhaps that's coming in short order (perhaps 777 going to LAX once the LR frames come online at which point it could go MSP - HND - LAX - SYD - LAX - HND - MSP).
Assume all of these will be 772ER and not LR (hence no JNB or SYD yet)
Link: https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...tions-for-w18/
https://news.delta.com/five-more-tra...um-select-2019
Jul 30, 2018, 9:42 am
#210
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Delta just announced today that 5 more TPAC routes will get the Suites/Premium Select products on A359/777s in 2019:
https://news.delta.com/five-more-tra...um-select-2019
MSP-HND 777-200ER starting Nov 16, 2018
ATL-NRT 777-200ER starting March 1 2019
SEA-NRT A359 starting March 1 2019
LAX-HND A359 starting March 31 2019
LAX-SYD 777-200LR timing TBD
https://news.delta.com/five-more-tra...um-select-2019
MSP-HND 777-200ER starting Nov 16, 2018
ATL-NRT 777-200ER starting March 1 2019
SEA-NRT A359 starting March 1 2019
LAX-HND A359 starting March 31 2019
LAX-SYD 777-200LR timing TBD