Sep 17, 2018, 11:55 am
Last edit by: N515CR
Delta 777-200ER/LR Conversions to 7HD & 7HB. Pre-mods config is 37J/36W/218Y. For all the ERs and the first LR, post-mods config was initially 28J/48W/220Y (7HD/7HB). The post-mods config for all ERs and LRs is now 28J/48W/90Y+/122Y (7CD/7CB).
Modifications are taking place at SIN and the entry and exit dates are based on SIN time (GMT + 8 hrs). Comfort + installation was done at ATL on all the 7HD>7CD conversions, and on 7106 (7HB>7CB). The remaining 9 LRs had the C + cabins installed at SIN.
777-200ER: 8/8 7CD
N860DA 7001 - Entered Jan 2 2019...finished Feb 3 2019. Entered ATL March 12 2019 for C + installation...finished March 15 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N861DA 7002 - Entered Jan 14 2019...finished Feb 17 2019. Entered ATL March 13 2019 for C + installation...finished March 17 2019. Permanently wfu on 17 March 2020.
N862DA 7003 - Entered Nov 29 2018...finished Jan 5 2019. Entered ATL March 6 2019 for C + installation...finished March 10 2019.
N863DA 7004 - Entered Feb 17 2018...finished June 6 2018. Entered ATL Feb 17 2019 for C + installation...finished March 3 2019. Permanently wfu on 22 September 2020.
N864DA 7005 - Entered Sept 18 2018...finished Oct 22 2018. Entered ATL March 3 2019 for C + installation...finished March 7 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N865DA 7006 - Entered Nov 16 2018...finished Dec 18 2018. Entered ATL Feb 21 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 27 2019.
N866DA 7007 - Entered Oct 24 2018...finished Nov 27 2018. Entered ATL Jan 28 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 16 2019.
N867DA 7008 - Entered Feb 4 2019...finished March 11 2019. Entered ATL March 25 2019 for C + installation...finished March 30 2019.
777-200LR: 10/10 7CB
N701DN 7101 - Entered Sept 14 2019...finished Oct 31 2019...C +.
N702DN 7102 - Entered Nov 8 2019...finished December 29 2019...C +.
N703DN 7103 - Entered Oct 18 2019...finished December 13 2019. C +.
N704DK 7104 - Entered April 4 2019...finished May 4 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N705DN 7105 - Entered Feb 25 2018...finished March 28 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 22 March 2020.
N706DN 7106 - Entered Sept 6 2018...finished Nov 1 2018. Entered ATL for C + installation March 1 2019...C + finished March 14 2019. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N707DN 7107 - Entered March 23 2019...finished April 23 2019...C +.
N708DN 7108 - Entered Dec 20 2019...finished Feb 5 2020...C +.
N709DN 7109 - Entered Jan 3 2020..finished Feb 8 2020...C +.
N710DN 7110 - Entered Nov 18 2019...finished Dec 24 2019...C +.
Modifications are taking place at SIN and the entry and exit dates are based on SIN time (GMT + 8 hrs). Comfort + installation was done at ATL on all the 7HD>7CD conversions, and on 7106 (7HB>7CB). The remaining 9 LRs had the C + cabins installed at SIN.
777-200ER: 8/8 7CD
N860DA 7001 - Entered Jan 2 2019...finished Feb 3 2019. Entered ATL March 12 2019 for C + installation...finished March 15 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N861DA 7002 - Entered Jan 14 2019...finished Feb 17 2019. Entered ATL March 13 2019 for C + installation...finished March 17 2019. Permanently wfu on 17 March 2020.
N862DA 7003 - Entered Nov 29 2018...finished Jan 5 2019. Entered ATL March 6 2019 for C + installation...finished March 10 2019.
N863DA 7004 - Entered Feb 17 2018...finished June 6 2018. Entered ATL Feb 17 2019 for C + installation...finished March 3 2019. Permanently wfu on 22 September 2020.
N864DA 7005 - Entered Sept 18 2018...finished Oct 22 2018. Entered ATL March 3 2019 for C + installation...finished March 7 2019. Expected wfu 05 Oct 2020.
N865DA 7006 - Entered Nov 16 2018...finished Dec 18 2018. Entered ATL Feb 21 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 27 2019.
N866DA 7007 - Entered Oct 24 2018...finished Nov 27 2018. Entered ATL Jan 28 2019 for C + installation...finished Feb 16 2019.
N867DA 7008 - Entered Feb 4 2019...finished March 11 2019. Entered ATL March 25 2019 for C + installation...finished March 30 2019.
777-200LR: 10/10 7CB
N701DN 7101 - Entered Sept 14 2019...finished Oct 31 2019...C +.
N702DN 7102 - Entered Nov 8 2019...finished December 29 2019...C +.
N703DN 7103 - Entered Oct 18 2019...finished December 13 2019. C +.
N704DK 7104 - Entered April 4 2019...finished May 4 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N705DN 7105 - Entered Feb 25 2018...finished March 28 2019...C +. Permanently wfu on 22 March 2020.
N706DN 7106 - Entered Sept 6 2018...finished Nov 1 2018. Entered ATL for C + installation March 1 2019...C + finished March 14 2019. Permanently wfu on 16 March 2020.
N707DN 7107 - Entered March 23 2019...finished April 23 2019...C +.
N708DN 7108 - Entered Dec 20 2019...finished Feb 5 2020...C +.
N709DN 7109 - Entered Jan 3 2020..finished Feb 8 2020...C +.
N710DN 7110 - Entered Nov 18 2019...finished Dec 24 2019...C +.
Delta confirms first route with 777 offering Delta One Suites, Premium Select, Comfort+ and Main Cabin: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1949190-tailored-travel-delta-debut-first-aircraft-all-four-seat-experiences-marc.html
777 D1 Suite PS + Comfort+ retrofit consolidated thread
May 26, 2020, 6:44 pm
#826
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Delta has 6 of the 10 B777-200LR's stored somewhere (1 at BHM, 3 at MZJ, 2 at VCV), do we (or Delta for that matter) expect those 6 to ever return to service? Will Delta ever restart ATL-JNB or JFK-BOM or LAX-SYD passenger routing sometime this year? If no - then the remaining 4 LR's need not stay in use either. The Airbus A350-900's (as does the B777-200ER's {which are also supposed to be "retired" this year}) DO have the range to for the JFK-BOM and LAX-SYD routes. The SYD and JNB routes have been Deltas' for quite some time and one would guess quite successful (profitable) - otherwise DL would have dropped them some time ago. With that being said, will South African Air pick up the JNB routing and / or will Qantas Air pick up the SYD routing then? I don't seem to remember if either of those companies are part of the Sky-team group.
May 26, 2020, 7:38 pm
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Delta has 6 of the 10 B777-200LR's stored somewhere (1 at BHM, 3 at MZJ, 2 at VCV), do we (or Delta for that matter) expect those 6 to ever return to service? Will Delta ever restart ATL-JNB or JFK-BOM or LAX-SYD passenger routing sometime this year? If no - then the remaining 4 LR's need not stay in use either. The Airbus A350-900's (as does the B777-200ER's {which are also supposed to be "retired" this year}) DO have the range to for the JFK-BOM and LAX-SYD routes. The SYD and JNB routes have been Deltas' for quite some time and one would guess quite successful (profitable) - otherwise DL would have dropped them some time ago. With that being said, will South African Air pick up the JNB routing and / or will Qantas Air pick up the SYD routing then? I don't seem to remember if either of those companies are part of the Sky-team group.
May 27, 2020, 6:15 am
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Delta has 6 of the 10 B777-200LR's stored somewhere (1 at BHM, 3 at MZJ, 2 at VCV), do we (or Delta for that matter) expect those 6 to ever return to service? Will Delta ever restart ATL-JNB or JFK-BOM or LAX-SYD passenger routing sometime this year? If no - then the remaining 4 LR's need not stay in use either. The Airbus A350-900's (as does the B777-200ER's {which are also supposed to be "retired" this year}) DO have the range to for the JFK-BOM and LAX-SYD routes. The SYD and JNB routes have been Deltas' for quite some time and one would guess quite successful (profitable) - otherwise DL would have dropped them some time ago. With that being said, will South African Air pick up the JNB routing and / or will Qantas Air pick up the SYD routing then? I don't seem to remember if either of those companies are part of the Sky-team group.
Jun 13, 2020, 6:35 pm
#829
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I would like to hear some additional expertise. I am attempting to figure out how Delta plans to retire all 18 B777 aircraft by the end of the year and use their existing 13 A350-900 aircraft to do it. DTW-ICN is the only 359 route that has returned with passengers. According DL's schedule, there are 5 routes being added July 1st: ATL-ICN, MSP-ICN, DTW-HND, MSP-HND, DTW-PVG. So far so good (some of these could come back initially as less than daily (and probably will). August 1st adds 1 more: MSP-AMS and that makes 7 routes, and so far, still so good through the end of 2020. On January 1st 2021, Delta appears to add 5 routes (some appear to be place holders and may be converted to 359's from 777's before said date: ATL-HND, LAX-HND, ATL-PVG, LAX-PVG, LAX-SYD. This tallies to a total of 12 routes (Delta had 9 or 10 359 routes before the pandemic reduction). So if some of these 12 are not fully daily, the current 13 359's will probably be able to work the schedule. (At one time) Delta was supposed to receive 2 additional aircraft this year (totaling 15) and not sure if those have been delayed until next year or not. The final 2 routes (which will need the "High Gross Weight" versions of the A350-900) are the only 2 remaining that need to be converted (JFK-BOM and ATL-JNB), but as Delta has said, the B777's WILL be retired by end of year 2020. Thoughts, Ideas, Creativity, etc. Thanks to any and all who respond ahead of time.
Jun 13, 2020, 7:36 pm
#830
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I would like to hear some additional expertise. I am attempting to figure out how Delta plans to retire all 18 B777 aircraft by the end of the year and use their existing 13 A350-900 aircraft to do it. DTW-ICN is the only 359 route that has returned with passengers. According DL's schedule, there are 5 routes being added July 1st: ATL-ICN, MSP-ICN, DTW-HND, MSP-HND, DTW-PVG. So far so good (some of these could come back initially as less than daily (and probably will). August 1st adds 1 more: MSP-AMS and that makes 7 routes, and so far, still so good through the end of 2020. On January 1st 2021, Delta appears to add 5 routes (some appear to be place holders and may be converted to 359's from 777's before said date: ATL-HND, LAX-HND, ATL-PVG, LAX-PVG, LAX-SYD. This tallies to a total of 12 routes (Delta had 9 or 10 359 routes before the pandemic reduction). So if some of these 12 are not fully daily, the current 13 359's will probably be able to work the schedule. (At one time) Delta was supposed to receive 2 additional aircraft this year (totaling 15) and not sure if those have been delayed until next year or not. The final 2 routes (which will need the "High Gross Weight" versions of the A350-900) are the only 2 remaining that need to be converted (JFK-BOM and ATL-JNB), but as Delta has said, the B777's WILL be retired by end of year 2020. Thoughts, Ideas, Creativity, etc. Thanks to any and all who respond ahead of time.
Jun 13, 2020, 8:11 pm
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I just hope they don't end up in the situation like they did several years back when they were short on aircraft for the tpac long haul and it ended up with rotating delays for several routes. If I recall that was when they had some MX issues with 747s while others were in for interior refurbs and created quite a mess for a couple months.
Jun 13, 2020, 8:18 pm
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I just hope they don't end up in the situation like they did several years back when they were short on aircraft for the tpac long haul and it ended up with rotating delays for several routes. If I recall that was when they had some MX issues with 747s while others were in for interior refurbs and created quite a mess for a couple months.
I personally would gladly welcome that scenario (even with rotating delays)
Jun 13, 2020, 8:24 pm
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I would like to hear some additional expertise. I am attempting to figure out how Delta plans to retire all 18 B777 aircraft by the end of the year and use their existing 13 A350-900 aircraft to do it. DTW-ICN is the only 359 route that has returned with passengers. According DL's schedule, there are 5 routes being added July 1st: ATL-ICN, MSP-ICN, DTW-HND, MSP-HND, DTW-PVG. So far so good (some of these could come back initially as less than daily (and probably will). August 1st adds 1 more: MSP-AMS and that makes 7 routes, and so far, still so good through the end of 2020. On January 1st 2021, Delta appears to add 5 routes (some appear to be place holders and may be converted to 359's from 777's before said date: ATL-HND, LAX-HND, ATL-PVG, LAX-PVG, LAX-SYD. This tallies to a total of 12 routes (Delta had 9 or 10 359 routes before the pandemic reduction). So if some of these 12 are not fully daily, the current 13 359's will probably be able to work the schedule. (At one time) Delta was supposed to receive 2 additional aircraft this year (totaling 15) and not sure if those have been delayed until next year or not. The final 2 routes (which will need the "High Gross Weight" versions of the A350-900) are the only 2 remaining that need to be converted (JFK-BOM and ATL-JNB), but as Delta has said, the B777's WILL be retired by end of year 2020. Thoughts, Ideas, Creativity, etc. Thanks to any and all who respond ahead of time.
Jun 13, 2020, 8:41 pm
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Not sure when BOM will come back... but the JNB flight would require two aircraft if they want to run it daily. Same those TPAC routes also... can't run anything daily from DTW/MSP/ATL to Asia with only one aircraft each. A turn with one aircraft is only feasible from west coast cities.
Jun 13, 2020, 9:14 pm
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it's not much different than playing Railroad Tycoon--except that you get to compare your strategy with DL's. No harm, no foul and probably fun for the people involved. I can see how it would be more interesting than a game and educational because you get to see how a real-world market responds to DL's strategy and then war game how your strategy would work.
Jul 10, 2020, 9:19 pm
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it's not much different than playing Railroad Tycoon--except that you get to compare your strategy with DL's. No harm, no foul and probably fun for the people involved. I can see how it would be more interesting than a game and educational because you get to see how a real-world market responds to DL's strategy and then war game how your strategy would work.
Jul 14, 2020, 2:13 pm
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Hi, i have a seating question about DL One Suites on the 777 for an upcoming (hopefully it happens) trip.
I know I want to sit on the true window seat so an even number row. Unfortunately Row 4 is taken on both sides. Do you suggest Row 2 or Row 6? Does anyone know which galley on this 777 is the louder/busier one? Also, prefer not to be near the lav.. Is row 2 closer to its respective lav in the front than Row 6 is to the rear lav or is it the other way around? or is pretty much equal distance. Any other thoughts as to which is better? I figure Row 2 will get food service first but Row 6 might have less foot traffic as most will use the forward restroom. Thanks
I know I want to sit on the true window seat so an even number row. Unfortunately Row 4 is taken on both sides. Do you suggest Row 2 or Row 6? Does anyone know which galley on this 777 is the louder/busier one? Also, prefer not to be near the lav.. Is row 2 closer to its respective lav in the front than Row 6 is to the rear lav or is it the other way around? or is pretty much equal distance. Any other thoughts as to which is better? I figure Row 2 will get food service first but Row 6 might have less foot traffic as most will use the forward restroom. Thanks
Aug 22, 2020, 4:06 pm
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FYI, DL has confirmed they'll all be gone by Halloween.
Aug 22, 2020, 8:03 pm
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There's an active 777 retirement thread, might be best to track them there: Delta to retire its entire Boeing 777 fleet by the end of the year
FYI, DL has confirmed they'll all be gone by Halloween.
FYI, DL has confirmed they'll all be gone by Halloween.